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The_Universe said:
You can't afford the magical rings yet, but I bet you could get someone to cast the spell on you...duration is less, but it'd still be handy.

The duration isn't nearly long enough-- looked it up today. We have to get from Hyrwl to the outskirts of Oceanus-- that will take several hours. By the time we get to Oceanus and Archon and L'Aurel get inside, it would have already poofed away.
 

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This is roughly what I would like to see the banner look like-- it needs a differnt world map behind it-- there's stuff on it our characters doen't know exists... but-- it was easy to trace, so I used that one...

Also-- I'm not sure what we want it to say...

Open for suggestions...

I know Mik is keen on the phrase "Until the Darkness Fades"... or something along those lines...

"We Will Be As Flame" or "Redemption from Flame"... something along those lines...

Let me know what you think!

Justice will spend an entire evening with another cleric-- maybe Fr. Dorn blessing this-- it will give it certain magical qualities that will benefit the entire group.

If you all want to work on individual symbols or banners, that is also a good idea... Especially L'Aurel... work on a banner for the high elves? Each group within the army should have their own identifier, I think...
 

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good eyes

calling the Circle (to be, hopefully) together, Archon along with the baroness inform the group that they have found a Portal Stone. it lies outside of town on the site of an old Byzantine battlefield.
something to add to the mix.
mik aka "Indianus Jonus"
 

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calling the Circle (to be, hopefully) together, Archon along with the baroness inform the group that they have found a Portal Stone. it lies outside of town on the site of an old Byzantine battlefield.
something to add to the mix.
mik aka "Indianus Jonus"


That's excellent-- maybe we'll be able to use it to bring Jaine and her posse back to us...

I'll do a little research, see what Justice knows about portal stone and whether or not we'll be able to work it.
 

Danger, Danger Will Robinson

I'd be really careful of bringing an NPC of any sort through a portal without the entire party to take them through. The reason portals aren't used openly throughout the kingdom is that there are creatures from the Abyss inside. Granted, they have to be at the right place at the right time, but...I wouldn't want to chance Jaine on it.

By the way, Knock and Decect Secret Doors are wands, not scrolls. If the duration of Rary's Telepathic Bond isn't long enough, why not see if we can get a scroll of it that Archon and L'Aurel can use before entering the city.
 
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hmmmm... where to start.... and sorry but this will be a long one

1) So far as I know we are still missing at least three for leadership vote … so definitely no oaths yet.

2) Justice needs to go talk to Father George if she has not- as I said before he knows about your parents… who became pirates… who may still be out there…. Pirates are another group of outcasts… may be helpful

3) L'Aurel and Archon are having fun hunting at night anyways, so team sneak is ready - and apparently already found something :) I would assume naturally they would start to form a natural ability to use signs or such- hey, sneaking up on Greylocke is not as easy as it looks J -1 skill point for knowledge (how archonus hunts)- Good to share the info. But only with the seven of us so far… at one of the breakfasts (see * if you have no idea) As for the going back into Oceanis, L’Aurel would ask Archonus on one of their trips about it, before agreeing to anything.
4) As to scouting parties, seems like the best time for Farathier and Arfin to see what their militia is like and how the groups work. Scouting for land, people, and resources.

5) Working on the woodshadow banner stuff. L'aurel would keep to that angle -and only 10 GP for a local to do it :) I'm cheap like that... hey, wait...

6) L'Aurel would swear friendship to all, but the leadership one only to Jaine.

7) As Liz may have noticed, L'Aurel will accept ideas and wisdom from all, but she is wearing the burden of these people heavily on herself and on herself alone. The group goals are still her’s as I put in my first long essay, but all these people are now her responsibility for the time being as well- she will have to weight heavily any sacrifices she makes for the group/adventure goal and those of the people.

8) Gerti/Xath great ideas with the people stuff-- wages will be set for laborers and a bonus for those taking on the militia training. 24 hour crèche sounds a little much, and I would like to not force anyone to work there. I would assume there are lots of women and men who ran the households… well, no households to run so to run the crèche they go. I want people to work and work hard, but I do not want to run them into the ground, as they are used to urban life. As for the children messengers, they get wages but much shorter shifts, and none late at night -older people can do that. Also. if this makes sense set times for lunch and dinner served from the palace. Try to get a pattern going a sense of somethign they can count on. Parents will have to sign their children up for the messenger service though, as I am not going to round them up. How is the schooling? Mostly learn a trade or learn from priests?

9) As for resources, that will all be part of a letter she send outs to the cities around- also will discuss at a breakfast meeting (see *) if Arfin would write also to dwarven holds around for help there. –Maybe while/if Archonus and L’Aurel go to Oceanis we could ask for their aid… JUST KIDDING!

10) L'Aurel also looks over her shoulder a lot... dragon people... hate....

11) If we are scrying, I would also ask the Amastatian temple- it does not sit well with L'Aurel and there is some reason it is there pointed the way it is..... oh, wait it's facing Mordred’s Isle….the Isle of Mourning DUH!!!! Let’s hope no one else gets it before we get to it!!!!

12) The banner for the Phoenix looks cool, but I would recommend it being as simple as possible (maybe just the foreground phoenix). Something people can easily see and know, instead of being caught up in background stuff.... just my two cents there.

13) For Mr.Miagi’s people before we bring them here –I would suggest by normal means or clerics with portal- having them scout if possible to see about the other two portals on their side of the continent (the one where we found them and one by the sea) or we scry these though I think they will be hidden from us.

14) For Xath- Saintsblade at the priest's secret rest- most likely the Apecto. I will send you want I got from the mages and see if you can do any better or fit pieces in I am not getting. Also see if you want/could talk to other mages, priests and see what they know... Though this may tip our hand to snake people if they are out there…

15) Before we start bringing or planning to bring any rebel or people with death sentences on their head (Jaine, Joshua, Bluemages or anyone else) to Hyrwl Justice, Randall and I need to finish our chat. Also, complete agreement with Gerti/Xath on the use of portals- very dangerous, and to use an NPC character we are trying to set up as queen… serious backfire!!! One of the goals that is kind of implicit is to keep her alive.

16) For the entertainment aspect, I was hoping Xath could at least partially fill that spot. She could tell our stories past, and present. She could even just pass these on to aspiring bards here for them to sing about at night. But as stated by Xath yes it definitely needs to happen, L’Aurel however, has a horrible voice and no sense of rhyme.

17) I will not turn away any of the refugees, and I think it a good idea for the scouting parties to also find those wayward people –word should be going to some of the other cities telling people they can come here. This is for refugees of Oceanis remember that…

18) I know food will become a problem soon, so L’Aurel will have to see what is included in her Barony, but will not let the forest be slashed and burned- sorry! When we meet for what is below then L’Aurel can say more on what word/letters she has/is going to send out.

19) If Justice really wants to go to the zoo she could fly to Sylvanis get Jaine who we hope is still there or her contact is actually good- and bring Jaine and Joshua back while just giving orders for the others to flee here--- by the way this is not an actual request as I am sure you will notice… J

*) WILL YOU ALL SHOW UP FOR BREAKFAST WITH THE BARONESS THE MORNING AFTER THE FUNERAL OF EDRISS??? I have asked most of you through e-mail to make it fit with the story and be in character, but not all sorry, and have heard back from no one –since I wrote them just a few hours ago J There we can decide on oaths and L’Aurel has news that she wants to share with only the seven of you! Though she does not tell you that part…. Then we can also more talk then jumping and missing some facts in some posts- a more linear conversation if you would.

These meetings would become everyday if the baroness can arrange it, and for a short period we will enter together, talk, and leave as a unified group. A council! That the people see as head! They would serve to talk about what is happening and go over what still needs to be done. This would give us the time to all this as a group and not in factions, so everyone knows everything! So let me know if you attend the first one… send an e-mail or post—I will send the final stuff to Kennon or better just CC him on everything…. Hmmm… too much e-mail…
Okay I think that is enough for now.. too much to digest, and I know I left stuff out. :) Oh Boy! :)
 

Justice's Parents?

To the best of everybody's knowledge, my parents are just adventurers. The last Justice knew her mother was sailing West with Tain.

She was a very brave explorer... but, aside from that-- little is actually known. They didn't visit me very often, to say the very least... and don't exactly keep in touch.

Justice talks to Fr. Dorn quite often-- she feels very close to him. It was he that told her of her heritage...
And, from all the stories that he has told, I've never once been told my parents are pirates... or really had that referenced.

Where did you come up with that, Kat?
 

The Breakfast Club of Impact +2

count an unmasked Archon in. it's about time the seven of us sat down and had a talk. i say we post the breakfast here and we can mail out copies of it to those who cannot post here.
"We only met for one breakfast, but it changed our lives forever." - The Breakfast Club(ish)

mik aka "Quotey McMisquotes"
 

what happened to the bean idea?

Queen_Dopplepopolis said:
To the best of everybody's knowledge, my parents are just adventurers. The last Justice knew her mother was sailing West with Tain.

She was a very brave explorer... but, aside from that-- little is actually known. They didn't visit me very often, to say the very least... and don't exactly keep in touch.

Justice talks to Fr. Dorn quite often-- she feels very close to him. It was he that told her of her heritage...
And, from all the stories that he has told, I've never once been told my parents are pirates... or really had that referenced.

Where did you come up with that, Kat?
Father Dorn mentioned Katie sailing west, and trouble Joshua had gotten into. Then trouble Dorn and Joshua got into and sentenced to exile. Jaine and Joshua also long ago spoke of Justice's mom, Katie, having ships that she would be using for thier purpose. So your mom may be technically under the crown, but she was going to help or Joshua was going to get her to help with the rebels, so even if not pirates -my bad on bad word choice- but she would know saliors who are not satisfied.... but if you have already talked father dorn and can not get anything out of him- L'Aurel will not push it -it is your family, and Joshua should know more anyways.
 
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Ditto on the breakfast..

But-- couple of things..

(1) If there are reservations about making Justice the "leader" please-- let me know ASAP. I posted several days ago-- and, having heard no complaints, I went forward with what I saw as the best plan of action for the group...
I took into consideration the ideas and opinions of Archon and The Universe when doing this-- they both agreed.. I trust their opinions-- so, I went forward.
I've still heard no actual complaints but, I get the idea that not everyone is with me.
In reality-- I feel the group should operate like this:
Archon, Justice, and Kaereth are the core strategy force. The "leader" that all of us have been talking about--and Kennon has begged us to chose--takes into consideration every opinion of the core force and makes a solid decision. L'Aurel is the group's legitimacy, at least until Jaine gets back.
Arfin is the Dwarf-- he deals with the dwarves.
Xath provides the strong and persuasive voice and the biting social commentary whenever needed.
Tim's character, whose name I can't spell, at current, is doing an excellent job training warriors and will add much to the Army of the Phoenix.

It seemed to me when selecting a "leader" that there were, realistically, 3 choices-- Xath, Justice, and Archon. These three have the training, experience, and skills to fulfill the position most effectively. (a point agreed upon by the DM)
I know that Archon does not want to play that part. Xath openly stated that she did not want that position.
So, please-- if you do not want Justice to be the "leader"-- tell me. I will take no offense-- that's what I requested that you all post or email me about it a few days ago.

(2) Someone somewhere mentioned swearing an oath of Justice-- that was never my intention-- nor was it ever part of her plan as a leader.
The only oath to be sword right now is the Oath of Alliance between the PCs.
When we have Jaine back here-- Justice, at least, will be swearing Fealty to her as the rightful Queen.

However, I do feel it is completely necessary for the group to swear at Oath of Alliance to EACHOTHER. As I said before-- prong 1 of Justice's plan is: Swear the oath or walk.

There's my two cents for the moment...
 

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