Discussion for a Kingdom of ashes OOC II

[Laurel]

I personally think that Oceanus should be first...

However it's FINALS week and I have other things that need attention before I can concentrate on D&D...

Moreover, I think that it is very important to have everyone that is venturing into the city in one place to do the planning... message boards are okay for the suggestion of ideas... but, it's hard to actually make the plans here because not everybody has input on the boards...

Is there a time when people could get together to make plans this week?

We have done lots of planning thus far through boards, and I was figuring nothing is final even when we play things change. We would have to go over the plan again when we sit down to play, just to hash out details and make sure everyone is still in agreement and is on the same page. But we are having a hard time getting EVERYONE together for a game day, so to ask people for a planning day and a game day sill be very difficult/impossible.
It would be great and terrific to try for though.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

The Plans... kinda sorta...

The Plan for getting into Oceanus, right now, looks a little like this:


Things we need:

--We need to find out who can cast invisibility the longest.

--We need to find out who can cast invisibility to undead the longest.

--We need to find out who can cast a non-detection spell the longest.

--We need to find any and all dex. increasing items so that you can be as sneaky as possible.

--We need to make a list of the equipment that Team Sneak will have.

--We need the secret rings or some sort of phoenix password so that, if something were to happen to you, we have some sort of identification to prove you are who you really are.

--We need a way to monitor Team Sneak... "Status" because of the Vow is an excellent option... we still don't have a telepathic link... but, we do know when one of us gets hurt.


So--Things we know...

--We know that Team Sneak will be all hyped-up with invisibility and non-detection spells.

--We know that Thane will carry Team Sneak to the area just outside of no-mans land (where exactly to be dropped off is TBA).

--We can make all the plans in the world for once Team Sneak gets INTO the city... however, I don't know that they will be of much use... Team Sneak is going to have to discuss this, though... they need some sort of hand-talk symbols so that they can communicate, probably...

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Lastly, is there some spell that allows you to see what another person is seeing? If so, that could be handy.

 

[Laurel]

Greyclaw

3. Look for clues as to the location to the blade that is in Oceanus.

We last know it was headed toward the docks, but that means nothing except it was in the hands of the enemy. We still have one close range parchment spell of location for Greyclaw, and maybe the mages could widen the spell? We used the one with greater range before we left the apectin temple.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

We last know it was headed toward the docks, but that means nothing except it was in the hands of the enemy. We still have one close range parchment spell of location for Greyclaw, and maybe the mages could widen the spell? We used the one with greater range before we left the apectin temple.

Using the scroll may be a bad idea in the city, though. Despite the non-detection spells on you, I don't know if we'd be able to cover up the usage of the scroll...

And, I don't know if anyone on Team Sneak can actually read the scroll...

Can one of you guys?

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Team Sneak

Is Team Sneak just going to be Archon and L'Aurel? Or are we adding Kaereth to the bunch, too?

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

We last know it was headed toward the docks, but that means nothing except it was in the hands of the enemy. We still have one close range parchment spell of location for Greyclaw, and maybe the mages could widen the spell? We used the one with greater range before we left the apectin temple.

Also, was the blade "heading" toward the docks... or was it just located near the docks?

All else fails, Team Sneak needs to see if they can find out where the enemy is keeping the blade in the city, if, in fact, they have it.

 

[AIM-54]

SoP

Here is my take on what our SpecOps teams should look like, although using humans, which are less common than Mik's use of elves. Nevertheless, since most of these guys will be pulled from the regular army, which has more significant numbers of the other races, it still works. I've approached it with a somewhat different philosophy than Mik, so we can hash it out, either as a group or between Mik and myself, depending on interest etc, on how the final teams and elven/human components look.
Finally, if we use the terms "Mender" and "Eye" as proposed by Mik, I am forced to tell you that I will be resigning from D&D forever, because those are just too lame for me to handle.

 

[Laurel]

Question 1: Is Team sneak just Archonus and L'aurel??

--We need to find any and all dex. increasing items so that you can be as sneaky as possible.

I think Archonus and L'aurel both have spells to also add for hide/move silently/jump/speed/or other necessary things

--We need to make a list of the equipment that Team Sneak will have.

Definately- and where or who has what we are not bringing-- just from past, when/if other come into city we need to know what is with who and such.

--We need the secret rings or some sort of phoenix password so that, if something were to happen to you, we have some sort of identification to prove you are who you really are.

This is something we need anyways, and it can not be jewlery or cloth an actual word or phrase --citing incident of snake Archonus attacking me in treehouse, he had mark over eye without havign seen it...

--We need a way to monitor Team Sneak... "Status" because of the Vow is an excellent option... we still don't have a telepathic link... but, we do know when one of us gets hurt.

I posted a telepathic link thing awhile ago, but not sure if it is DM approved. Also, is only works for close range (35ft. base) so team sneak could all get it at least -- but as Liz states there is still the issue of back-up having info. too. There would also be the issue of if Archonus would want/allow someone (a mage or otherwise) inside his mind...

--We know that Thane will carry Team Sneak to the area just outside of no-mans land (where exactly to be dropped off is TBA).

L'Aurel would want Bob, just for ride checks, attacks, mounted combat issues, in case of trouble or what not. Unless Justice is dropping us off, since she has the bonuses and such for the magical beast and her mount, or if Archonus has awsome ride skills

--We can make all the plans in the world for once Team Sneak gets INTO the city... however, I don't know that they will be of much use... Team Sneak is going to have to discuss this, though... they need some sort of hand-talk symbols so that they can communicate, probably...[/QUOTE]It had been said earlier that hand signals and movements would have been developed with past combat with group and through the recent hunting trips.
As for planning- I think more the lines of really broad plan or Archonus 'objective' track.

 

[AIM-54]

Planning

Okay, for the first Oceanus mission we need to pick one, maybe two objectives. We don't need to get everything done at once, nor are we likely to. That said I think we make the target liberation of some elves or the capture of some cannonballs. These are small objectives, yes, but I think we need to start small until we're more certain what we're dealing with, in terms of getting into/out of the city, patrols, how well people are staying hidden etc.
That said, my idea was not for this to be a "Team Sneak" adventure, simply because that's asking for death. I think we need more than 2-3 people in there in order to achieve our objectives and survive the experience. Magic will certainly help on the stealth side, but if it hits the fan, we may need more than just stealth and luck. As it stands, I'm not comfortable enough with the teleportation idea and how feasible it is to trust to that particular exfiltration method.
Whether we need everyone or everyone wants to go is something else. Heck, we could bring along a ShadowPhoenix trainee, if it comes down to it.
Finally, there's no reason we have to wait until the second week or whatever to do the first run. We can do it a day or two after the funeral, before the walls are completed, if that's a concern.
Okay, now back to NATO.

 

[Laurel]

Also, was the blade "heading" toward the docks... or was it just located near the docks?

All else fails, Team Sneak needs to see if they can find out where the enemy is keeping the blade in the city, if, in fact, they have it.

The exact position was at the amastatian statue, I believe. Reason we did not try and get it then, since that is essentially at the docks.



We will need to boost the range to the spell we have or make a new parchment spell made or put a location spell somehow on one of us to find Greyclaw. Asking the locals of Oceanus can be attempted, but I don't think will get us far. So we definitely need something for location...