Discussion for a Kingdom of ashes

[Laurel]

down boy, down!

--Och! Mik warn me first- go back to playing with _________ (fill in the blank) If you did not answer 'your car clock' you are wrong!
I will only say on the emotional issues- I agree with some points made above and Gerti those points (I think) were not directed at any one person, because I know I have been the cause of some (Something I can only try not to do again). This is my first game, so I like both Roll and Role playing though roll playing is much easier to get the hang of and hey killing is always fun in Kat's book But a good balance is cool to play with. Also moral dilemma’s are fun in my book because they change your character maybe not how you want, but that is part of growing which your character is doing! I also really like this campaign because it is so different and thanks to kennon really has that unique feel.


-Kat-

sorry kind of re-peat I did not think the other posted!

 

[Xath]

My Apology

I'm sorry I was such a butt-munch in my response. I hadn't had the greatest day, and reading that post really got me riled up. I respect your right to vent. I also realize that one of the reasons I was so upset is because I despise talking about matters like feelings over text. Its too easy to misinterpret, which I think I did on several points.

You guys are the best group of people I've ever roleplayed with. And I won't say anymore because when I write it, it looks sappy. And I try not to be sappy whenever possible.

Anyway...I'm sorry.

-Gertie the electrocuted

Hey, ENworld apparently does not believe in daylight savings time.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Probably going to be a LONG post...

First-- about the drama...

This is childish. We are all stressed out. We do lots of things... plan weddings, go to school, work (some full time), participate in theatrical productions... the list goes on and on.
However, being stressed is no excuse for wailing on your friends and making personal attacks about characters we've all invested lots of time in. Wail to them, not on them-- please.

Now-- I hope that we can all leave this behind us and get on with the game.



Second point-- About the leadership...
Once again, Justice is all for the leadership position. I am more than willing to invest the time and the effort (outside of school, homemaking, and everything else I'm involved in) to learn the ways of military tactics.

Moreover, Justice is already a well rounded diplomat (+25 to Diplomacy-- not quite as high as Xath... but, if I ever need her to speak to a group of people for me-- I hope that she would accept the invitation).

Third-- Group Unity
Well, this entire ideal was kind of disrupted tonight... but, I hope that we can utilize the break over the next weekend to work through all of the out of game negativity so that, when we get back together, we can have a fun, productive, and less confused adventure.

However, I think that group unity is going to come through a group quest..

And so, I proudly present #4!

Fourth-- The Quest..
We have a couple options

Find the blades ourselves-- this means taking on a fairly large task... and it also means that the evil-ness is going to be trying to get them from us.
So, if we manage to get the blades, we then have to find a way to raise an army to protect them...

Raise a rebel army and let the bad guys find the blades so that we can use that army to take back the blades.
This would include things like roping in alienated populations (ie high elves and wizards) to fight with us... all the while we are acquiring this army, the king and the dragon people are gathering the blades and we, once we've gotten this army-- will go steal them back, save the princess, and beat the game! *cue victory music*

I believe that the blades are the key to winning the throne and giving it to Jane. So, as I see it, they are the key to moving forward in the game

The optionis are sort of circular... get the blades and raise an army or do it the other way around... The two tasks will certainly overlap if the opportunity presents itself...
These may seem like "goals" but, if we can get the entire group unified under one goal we can start to make PLANS! This is where the largest amount of group strife comes from... massive confusion because we all have goals that don't necessarily coincide...
We need to select a puropse--stick with it--and from that comes the plans.

This probably all seems a little confusing-- and, granted, I am rambling--but, it will become more clear once I have the time to actually write everything out in detail..

Right now, I request a vote: find the swords ourselves or get an army and fight for them...

Let me know what you think: lizbauman@cox.net

For now, I'm done...

 

[The_Universe]

OOOh! OOOH! be sappy! I want to see it!

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Agreement

OOOh! OOOH! be sappy! I want to see it!

I agree...

And, snaps to Gertie.

Let's all move on and game like good little nerds!

 

[Xath]

Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?

Where are those spirit blades now?

Aldersblade high in the hands of lost hero- that would be Link Woodshadow's sword, which as far as we know, is gone.

Mansblade in the Lichlord's Keep- That would be with the Bluestar

Dwarvenblade in the lost stone halls- Possibly Dwarven Sylvannus, which were lost to the forces of the Bluestar almost 40 years ago, possibly somewhere else.

Sendersblade in Lady Shadow's tomb- Tiamat is Lady Shadow. She died on the Isle of Mourning (Mordred's Isle) but who knows where her tomb is. Oberon and Tiamat were believed to have killed each other in divine battle in 2 BL. However, Oberon didn't die, and the prophecy suggests Tiamat did not die either, but that Oberon had given up his immortality to imprison her once more. It's possible that her tomb is not where she is interred, but where she is imprisoned. Now when Tiamat seduced Morgath to produce a son, Mordred the Black, his true form turned out to be that of a Shadow Dragon. Obviously Morgath was not a Dragon so that leaves Tiamat, Lady of Shadow. Could this be connected to all of the Dragonish stuff of the West?

Sendersblade at the builder's pyre- Alright, so Quarion is the builder, but where is his pyre?

Forestblade in my daughter's crypt- Oberon's daughter was buried on the Isle of Mourning (Mordred's Isle)

Saintsblade at the priest's secret rest- no friggen clue

Drakesblade in the hands of Kings!- no friggen clue as well

Deathsblade 'neath the ruined city- Possibly Caer Maelyn, but there are alot of ruined cities

Earthsblade with the lichlord's blood- It may be with Archonis' family, it may be with Archonis Bluestar. This we need to determine fairly soon, lest Archonis' entire family be killed.

Moonsblade in the Builder's Glory- In Quarion's Wall. I'd be hesitant to remove that one since it may be what powers the magic to keep the Bluestar in the North.

Aldersblade True in the city of Forsaken Blood- This would be Oceanus, and it wouls also be gone.

Leigeblade at the side of rulers, Leigeblade stolen from the sea, Leigeblade as Serpent's salvation, Leigeblade's capture is the key- um "Pirates"...yeah

Umm, ok, so the prophesy was told in Caer Maelyn, Raith Truthbearer wrote this in the "bowels of the old libraries in the Citadel" There are quite a few citadels, but this should be a very old one, as far from Caer Maelyn as possible. Yet we found this in the libraries of the Woodshadow. Raith was waiting to tell the message to Thane, Link, or Quarion, and waited until the last possible moment to write it down, fearing that it would fall into the wrong hands. Obviously it ended up with Link, but how much time was there between when it was written, and when it came into the hands of Link Woodshadow. Did he show it to his daughter? If so, does she have the knowledge of the 13 spirit blades as well? Is she working for the Bluestar or for the West? These are all things we should think about.

 

[Xath]

Leadership

While Xath may have the most well developed speaking skills, I do not pretend to know anything about fighting, running an army, etc. And since we're the ARMY of the Phoenix, Xath as a leader does not sound good to me.

Three cheers for Justice.

 

[Xath]

1) Would we align ourselves with one evil to conquer another and then destroy the evil we are with –a lets deal with this enemy and then you are my enemy not friend again?

How do we know that the 2 evils are not already allied against us? Also, by aligning ourselves with one evil, we make them stronger, making it that much more difficult to defeat them in the end. Also, there's the whole allying with evil thing. The best of both worlds would to make each evil see the other as a growing threat that needs to be taken care of, more than they need to conquer the Falcon Kingdom. However, the chances of us orchestrating this are extremely slim. Whichever evil we go after first will give the other a chance to become more powerful. To the point, I don't like the idea.

2) Gerti- from the prophesy, which blades have we linked to what places and which are still unaccounted for?

See above post.

3) Connection of the triangle –bluestar, falcon king, dragon emperor?

Well, if my suspicions of Tiamat are true, that would explain the Dragon Empire's hatred of the Falcon Kingdom. The one person who would know the most about that would be the Bluestar, as he intensly studied Mordred the Black's works before becoming evil and Lichifying himself. However, its not like we can just walk to the frozen north and ask him, is it.

5) Find out more about the portals –we have left one open to their use there will be/most likely are more out there. How to destroy them completly, and who to tell warn or thier exsistance??

3996 BL Runed weapons are hidden, by their bearers, in thirteen Rune Stones, which are themselves hidden throughout the kingdom. Tagren Blayz, leader of the Black Talon, attempts to summon extra-planar aid to prevent Morgath from capturing the capital, Caer Albion. The portal, a Great Race artifact, fails. Instead, an unclosing gateway to the abyss is opened. With his dying breath, Blayz magically seals the city, trapping demon, devil, and abomination inside the city’s mithral walls.

4 BL Oberon is reborn, aided by the magics of the Apecto, and the great hero Dittymus. Caer Albion is cleansed, and the portal to the Abyss closed. Several other portals are discovered in Prydein and around the ringed continent.

But then the revolution came. As far as history is concened, the other portals were never closed. But they were discovered at some point, and there should be record of that somewhere. One thing to worry about is that the Portal at Caer Maelyn was closed, not destroyed. Let's hope they can't reopen that monstrosity.

 

[The_Universe]

A Note On Portals...

There are a few things about the portals that your characters would probably know.

When the portal to the Abyss in Caer Albion was cleansed, then closed, it was done...imperfectly. Because of the actions of Lady Tiamat herself to stall the closing, certain things were trapped between worlds, in the fabric of the portals themselves--Demons, monstrous undead, and evils more unspeakable even than those...

Thus, while several portals were found, they have rarely been used in the past millenium, because of what lies along the "Path."

You found one of these portals in the forest--it was the gateway through which Lord Miagee's people came. More than likely, the strange creatures that poured through it after you opened it part way were part of the remnant of evil that remains in the portals. You've seen several in use since then (whether or not you realized it at the time)...so their knowledge has clearly not been completely lost.

Using the portals is dangerous--so dangerous that the Kingdom (despite its resources) has largely ignored their uses.

Portals work several ways. The easiest (but most dangerous) is a portal-to-portal trip. You simply have to know the right combination on the stone for this, and have enough energy to power the stones. When using this method, the Portal Daemons are free to act against you as long as the portal remains open. Nonetheless, there are not many Portal Daemons, and they are not omniscient. If they are not at the right place in the Plane of Gateways, you can pass safely.

More difficult (but less dangerous) is simply using the magic of the portals to enhance existing magics. Using the stones, teleportation magics are generally more accurate, and more powerful. In short, personal power is amplified.

 

[The_Universe]

The one person who would know the most about that would be the Bluestar, as he intensly studied Mordred the Black's works before becoming evil and Lichifying himself. However, its not like we can just walk to the frozen north and ask him, is it.

Well, you could sure try! *Laughs maniacally*