Discussion for a Kingdom of ashes

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Current Situation

Alright, so, "Team Clear the City" is at the Apectan Temple looking for our homies with the Duke's body...

3 questions...

(1) What do we do when we're done at the Temple?

(2) Are we going to wish the Duke back to life?
--I know that Arfin had talked about using the wishes to make his weapons more powerful... but, if the wishes truly are "community property," I think that they should be used to bring the Duke back. It would work to our advantage in a number of ways... especially once we get to the city with the refugees..

(3) DM-- How much time do we have left before the bad guys start chopping off the heads of innocent babies ACTIVELY as opposed to just chopping of the heads of innocent babies that get in their way?

 

[AIM-54]

Alright, so, "Team Clear the City" is at the Apectan Temple looking for our homies with the Duke's body...

3 questions...

(1) What do we do when we're done at the Temple?

(2) Are we going to wish the Duke back to life?
--I know that Arfin had talked about using the wishes to make his weapons more powerful... but, if the wishes truly are "community property," I think that they should be used to bring the Duke back. It would work to our advantage in a number of ways... especially once we get to the city with the refugees..

(3) DM-- How much time do we have left before the bad guys start chopping off the heads of innocent babies ACTIVELY as opposed to just chopping of the heads of innocent babies that get in their way?

1) Once we're done at the temple, I think we should head to the Barracks and see what we can do about rallying forces there, preparing some sort of delaying attack or simply sending them off to rendezvous with everyone else at Hyrwl. If the Duke's back at that point, we have serious negotiating power there, too.

2)So, I think we should bring the Duke back, he will be far more useful to us alive than dead and may be the only chance to effectively organize a resistance AND get the refugees off to safety, as well as alerting the rest of the continent that bad things are there and may be coming after them next.

Those're my thoughts at any rate.

 

[Xath]

Wishing Him Back to Life

Maybe I misread the incedent with Archonis Bluestar, but didn't he make Arfin promise not to use his wishes? Or was it just not to use them at that point?

 

[The_Universe]

(3) DM-- How much time do we have left before the bad guys start chopping off the heads of innocent babies ACTIVELY as opposed to just chopping of the heads of innocent babies that get in their way?

Well, Syvattagor (the Draconic Giant who CLAIMED to be the Herald of the Bluestar) said that you'd have one half-hour to flee before he released his army in full. It took you about 5 minutes at the Amastacian Monastery, another 6 to get to the City Watch (including fighting the Gatorman/Dracosauruses), 5 minutes at the City Watch, and then 4 minutes (or so) to get to the Cathedral from the Watch. In total, you've used approx. 20 of the 30 allotted minutes.

If he holds to his word, you've got about 10 minutes before they start ACTIVELY chopping the heads off of babies. In their defense, you don't KNOW that all the babies are innocent...there may be some very guilty infants out there that are about to be slaughtered!

Lots of people have started out of the city by now, taking only what they can carry, but a half-hour isn't much. If the object is to drive the populace from the city (and their wait to march seems to suggest that) they MAY wait a little longer before they start to march. Does that help?

 

[The_Universe]

Maybe I misread the incedent with Archonis Bluestar, but didn't he make Arfin promise not to use his wishes? Or was it just not to use them at that point?

Arfin didn't have to promise anything. But Archonus Bluestar, who apparently had some knowledge of the future, STRONGLY CAUTIONED Arfin against using his wishes at all, ever.

However, that still leaves the question of whether or not you could/would/should believe the dark doppelganger of Archon.

HAHA! I LOVE MORAL DILEMMAS!

 

[AIM-54]

Arfin didn't have to promise anything. But Archonus Bluestar, who apparently had some knowledge of the future, STRONGLY CAUTIONED Arfin against using his wishes at all, ever.

However, that still leaves the question of whether or not you could/would/should believe the dark doppelganger of Archon.

HAHA! I LOVE MORAL DILEMMAS!

It's somewhat less of a moral dilemma, though, if we use the wish to act as a spell of a level lower than 8th (I believe?), which, if I recall correctly, is enough to perform one of the resurrection spells with relatively less risk than say, wishing for an army of angels.

The real moral dilemma is more over whether it isethical to resurrect someone from the dead...

 

[The_Universe]

Very true.

However, the description of most resurrection spells says that you can't resurrect somebody that doesn't want to come back. So, even if the church frowns upon it, you know you're not going to rip him from the comfort of Heaven if you wish for his return. If he's happy where he is, he'll just stay there, and you'll be down a wish.

 

[AIM-54]

Very true.

However, the description of most resurrection spells says that you can't resurrect somebody that doesn't want to come back. So, even if the church frowns upon it, you know you're not going to rip him from the comfort of Heaven if you wish for his return. If he's happy where he is, he'll just stay there, and you'll be down a wish.

Under the circumstances, I'd argue that's not a bad risk to take, especially considering the nature of his demise. And if we just lose a wish, well, that's one less opportunity for destroying the space-time continuum...again...

 

[The_Universe]

Yes--the consequences are certainly much less dire, unless Arfin REALLY screws something up in the wording.

 

[Archon]

Clark Kented

"......dark doppleganger of Archon" teh. heeee is the real Archon! the archon that fights with the group now is the "extra" one.........oh well.
but yeah, Arfin's wishes are community property whether he wants it or not. so, yes, we are bringing back the duke. preferably somewhere safer so he doesn't just die again.
also before we start introducing ourselves as allies may i suggest comming up with secret identities. our names are names of outlaws, and mine a herald of the Bluestar, and i see it being a good idea to come up with new names.
i think, and somebody please correct me if i'm wrong, only the Duke, if anyone, knows our true names. and once we ressurect him i think he'd be nice enough to keep our little secret.
i don't care how we come up with the names but i suggest we all start thinking about it.
who's with me on this?
mik - aka "Fun Lova"