(Discussion) General Part II

[Macbeth]

I think I found the problem with Arken, he changed his character after a while and changed classes, and now he still has a few remnents of being a Cleric. I'll talk to him. Beyond those errors and the strongheart issue, I think everything is good. Thanks for catching the stuff with Arken though, I haden't had time to give him a detailed review since he changed classes, and his name is still on the list from when he was a cleric.

Beyond that I think we're error free (with th exception of soe character who haven't been approved yet). I missed a couple of revisions on Arkens char, but thats most of it.

 

[Creamsteak]

Just tell the Strongheart Halflings players that they have to change in order to remain playable. Not that difficult.

Damn the Forgotten Realms. Why do people have to drag all of the realms stuff everywhere they go? It's like a set of boots that just won't come clean...

Thels, email me and I'll send a reply later tonight.

And GaryH, yes I have your email concerning the WCIII skill.

 

[Macbeth]

Okay, i'm going to be gone for the rest of the day until somtime tommorow, so let me leave a last post on this issue:
Mistakes: there were a couple, but they are bein corrected. I missed a couple of things in the 35 characters. I am correcting my mistakes. No big deal. I have fixed far more then I made mistakes on.
A Second Character checker: Anybody is more then welcome to review my reviewed characters. I may make mistakes, and there's nothing like another few pairs of eyes to help catch them. If you want a second official character checker, that would be great, especially if we geta flood of new characters when we start recruiting.
However, I still think that I am doing my job well, and missing the 4 errors that Thels has mentioned to me so far (2 strongheart, 1 familair possibly not payed for, 1 Extra Prepared spell) is about par for the course after reviewing 35 characters and correcting at least 8 or so mistakes that I can think of off the top of my head. A second judge would help, but as you can see its not a horrible amount of errors, given 35 characters and 4 errors, 2 of which I have explained were simply a matter of the source of the char, things are still going well.

Since I'm not going to be here for the rest of this discussion let me say that I enjoy this job and I think I have been doing it as well as can be expected with the number of characters that flood in.

 

[Thels]

Yeah, nothing personal, MacBeth... You've been doing great so far. Just that, 4 eyes see more than 2.

And yeah, FRCS is considered too much of a splat book at times. Heck, we're not even allowing splat books in here.

Oh, and can we set the new format as a requirement? IE no revision until you actually use the format. This would apply to new chars being made and existing chars being revised for whatever reason, including levelups.

 

[garyh]

Classes represented:
Paladin: 3
-Paladin of Hyrag: 2

Cool! I hadn't noticed anyone had taken Hyrag as a patron.

 

[Thels]

Hehe, yeap. Yours truly... and appearantly a fellow countrymember.

Hyrag's currently the most worshipped Deity among the PC's though he's got no clerics. If we go with Leadership, I'll take a Cleric of Hyrag as my cohort when I reach level 6 (if I ever will )

Oh, and I've already smitten some kind of orc creature in Hyrag's name

 

[garyh]

Hehe, yeap. Yours truly... and appearantly a fellow countrymember.

Hyrag's currently the most worshipped Deity among the PC's though he's got no clerics. If we go with Leadership, I'll take a Cleric of Hyrag as my cohort when I reach level 6 (if I ever will )

Oh, and I've already smitten some kind of orc creature in Hyrag's name

Good deal, Thels! I'll have to take another, closer look at the PC's now. I had thought my PC would be the first Hyragian (that's the official adjective, I've just decided ), but I'm glad others have picked up on him already.

 

[Jack Haggerty]

Genders represented:
-Strongheart Halfling: 2 (Actually, this subrace is not allowed, why do people keep picking it?)

As for the Strongheart Halfling, the players who submitted those characters said that they were playable since they have no level adjustment, and they are a subrace of halflings. I decided since at the time I had lots of characters to review I would let it slide for the moment, since my primary concern is getting characters into the game, and bring up the issue of the stronghearts later. Unfortunately I haven't brought it up with the judges yet (ooops), but I had intended to.

Okay, well, Strongheart halflings are from the Forgotten Realms. Like Deep Halflings have Dwarf features and Tallfellow Halflings have Elven Features, Strongheart Halflings have Human Features. However, they're not in the 3.5 MM or SRD (Don't have the 3.0 MM, but I doubt they're in there).

Oh, I just realized why Stronghearts could be such a problem, their from FRCS. Forgive me, I was working form a copy of several races that I keep on my computer that I use as a Player Handout, and hadn't thought about the source. Now I see the problem. Let me get in touch with the players and work this out. Any preferences as to how we correct this, judges? Sorry for my mistake, but I only allowed them after I got some strong emails with good arguments about how they should be allowed.

As one of the Stronghearts... I simply hadn't double checked that they weren't in the MM or SRD. I'd seen someone else who already had one approved, and had been playing with that halfling variation so long, I hadn't thought twice about it.

The change is actually very simple. To go from Lightfoot to Strongheart, you drop the +1 Luck bonus to Saves and gain a bonus feat at 1st level. I'd picked Point Blank Shot and Stealthy, for the record. The amusing thing is, if a Strongheart Halfling picks the FRCS feat, Luck of Heroes at 1st level, he essentially has the exact same racial bonuses as a Lightheart.

Anyway... If it's that much of a problem, I'll drop one of my two feats, and give him back his +1 Save bonus. It's not a very big deal. Either way, he's getting a good deal.

 

[Creamsteak]

I'd prefer it if you changed the halfling over. If your ever interested in creating a race of halflings that are different from the FRCS and core books, just pass it by me. Wait on that kind of idea making, however, until we get into the first major movement with the setting.

 

[Janos Audron]

I'd prefer it if you changed the halfling over. If your ever interested in creating a race of halflings that are different from the FRCS and core books, just pass it by me. Wait on that kind of idea making, however, until we get into the first major movement with the setting.

By Macbeth in the "Your Guide to ENWorld" Thread
Q: Can I play a (insert name of monster here)?

A: At this point we are only allowing the races listed in the PHB and the varients of these races that do not have a ECL. So, for example, Deep Dwarves are allowed, since they have no ECL, but Drow are not, since they have an ECL.

And *that* is why I am playing a Strongheart Halfling.