Dismissing flying mount

[parinho7]

I have a flying mount and i am concerned about casting dismissal or banishment when i am flying with it. It's my only way of flying since i am a paladin. I don't think that the damage i'll take from the landing is significant but what can i do against flying opponents without a mount? Is there any spell or feat or any way to protect my mount from these spells? (i can't get equipment)

 

[frankthedm]

Depends on how the DM rules Dimensional Anchor interacts with banishment dismissal.

Forms of movement barred by a dimensional anchor include astral projection, blink, dimension door, ethereal jaunt, etherealness, gate, maze, plane shift, shadow walk, teleport, and similar spell-like or psionic abilities. The spell also prevents the use of a gate or teleportation circle for the duration of the spell.

 

[parinho7]

i can't cast a dimensional anchor because it can be cast only by clerics, sorcerers and wizards
i am a paladin
and i don't rely on my teamates because we play every man for himself and also do a lot of pvps so i want a way to fly on my own

 

[Nebten]

Then kill the bad guy/teamate first before he dispells your mount =vp

 

[risner]

I have a flying mount and i am concerned about casting dismissal or banishment when i am flying with it.

Ring of Featherfall and Boots of Flying for when you don't have your mount.

Your mount is a standard animal, not a magical beast or an extraplanar creature. So it is immune to dismissal/banishment unless you are plane shifted yourself (and therefor a valid target.)

At no point does it say your mount gains extraplanar or outsider (or even magical beast) type. It only says it is treated as a magical beast (but makes it clear it is still an animal or its normal type.)

Now some argue it must be extra planar because of your ability to "stuff it in a pocket for it to hang out in Celestia". But there isn't any hard rule to prove it is extraplanar and a lot of rules to suggest your mount is something you already used as a mount before reaching 5th level and at 5th Paladin you gain "new" abilities you can use with your mount.

 

[DarkelvenSFi]

Now some argue it must be extra planar because of your ability to "stuff it in a pocket for it to hang out in Celestia". But there isn't any hard rule to prove it is extraplanar and a lot of rules to suggest your mount is something you already used as a mount before reaching 5th level and at 5th Paladin you gain "new" abilities you can use with your mount.

And even then it is determined by where the mount originated from. If it's native to the material plane (is that what they call the 'home' plane?), then it's simply an extraplanar when it's stuffed in its pocket. When it comes back into existence (for you), it looses this subtype and cannot be banished.

Take a look at the monster manual that your mount comes from. It'll tell you where it's home plane is; Environment. If it lists a different plane, you'll have to get some boots of flying or similar. Otherwise you're fine.

 

[frankthedm]

Now some argue it must be extra planar because of your ability to "stuff it in a pocket for it to hang out in Celestia". But there isn't any hard rule to prove it is extraplanar and a lot of rules to suggest your mount is something you already used as a mount before reaching 5th level and at 5th Paladin you gain "new" abilities you can use with your mount.

The paladin's mount is there by a conjuration (calling) effect and the paladin ability expressly states the creature resides in the celestial realms.

Upon reaching 5th level, a paladin gains the service of an unusually intelligent, strong, and loyal steed to serve her in her crusade against evil. This mount is usually a heavy warhorse (for a Medium paladin) or a warpony (for a Small paladin).

Once per day, as a full-round action, a paladin may magically call her mount from the celestial realms in which it resides. This ability is the equivalent of a spell of a level equal to one-third the paladin’s level. The mount immediately appears adjacent to the paladin and remains for 2 hours per paladin level; it may be dismissed at any time as a free action. The mount is the same creature each time it is summoned, though the paladin may release a particular mount from service.

Each time the mount is called, it appears in full health, regardless of any damage it may have taken previously. The mount also appears wearing or carrying any gear it had when it was last dismissed. Calling a mount is a conjuration (calling) effect.

Should the paladin’s mount die, it immediately disappears, leaving behind any equipment it was carrying. The paladin may not summon another mount for thirty days or until she gains a paladin level, whichever comes first, even if the mount is somehow returned from the dead. During this thirty-day period, the paladin takes a -1 penalty on attack and weapon damage rolls.

the "hard rule" is in larger text...

Conjuration
Each conjuration spell belongs to one of five subschools. Conjurations bring manifestations of objects, creatures, or some form of energy to you (the summoning subschool), actually transport creatures from another plane of existence to your plane (calling), heal (healing), transport creatures or objects over great distances (teleportation), or create objects or effects on the spot (creation). Creatures you conjure usually, but not always, obey your commands.

A creature or object brought into being or transported to your location by a conjuration spell cannot appear inside another creature or object, nor can it appear floating in an empty space. It must arrive in an open location on a surface capable of supporting it.

The creature or object must appear within the spell’s range, but it does not have to remain within the range.

Calling
A calling spell transports a creature from another plane to the plane you are on. The spell grants the creature the one-time ability to return to its plane of origin, although the spell may limit the circumstances under which this is possible. Creatures who are called actually die when they are killed; they do not disappear and reform, as do those brought by a summoning spell (see below). The duration of a calling spell is instantaneous, which means that the called creature can’t be dispelled.

 

[parinho7]

in my case it is extraplanar because i have the Celestial mount feat from the book of exalted deeds. it gains the celestial template so it is an outsider, so it can be banished or dismissed

 

[parinho7]

Ring of Featherfall and Boots of Flying for when you don't have your mount.

i have the vow of poverty feat so i can't have any equipment

 

[risner]

The paladin's mount is there by a conjuration (calling) effect and the paladin ability expressly states the creature resides in the celestial realms. the "hard rule" is in larger text...

I'm aware of those quotes, I just don't agree with your RAW conclusion. Call it a debated topic, but you can't prove it is extraplanar because it doesn't say the creature gets extraplanar tag. It only says it has Magical Beast. If what you suggest was RAW, that would need to be specified and it isn't.

in my case it is extraplanar because i have the Celestial mount feat from the book of exalted deeds. it gains the celestial template so it is an outsider, so it can be banished or dismissed
i have the vow of poverty feat so i can't have any equipment

You are screwed...

I think there is a class that grants Ex wings.... Not sure which. Let me think. It would be 10th level capstone ability tho.