DM challenge (my players stay out!)

[Nightfall]

Heh. I would have just had a dragon take them down.

 

[Piratecat]

Heh. I would have just had a dragon take them down.

And that would have taught them nothing. Sometimes, you have to smack PCs with highly organized enemies weaker than they are, in order to drive home a point.

 

[Silver Moon]

Sometimes, you have to smack PCs with highly organized enemies weaker than they are, in order to drive home a point.

I totally agree, and have done that more than once myself.

 

[Nightfall]

And that would have taught them nothing. Sometimes, you have to smack PCs with highly organized enemies weaker than they are, in order to drive home a point.

Ppphht. Fine. I'll remember that when I send out swarms of Chern's children.

 

[shilsen]

And that would have taught them nothing. Sometimes, you have to smack PCs with highly organized enemies weaker than they are, in order to drive home a point.

Exactly. By the time they were midway through the fight players were saying OOC, "Somebody please kill one of them! This is embarrassing!" Getting beat up by a dragon wouldn't have had the same effect. Near the end of the fight, the PCs who were still on their feet were backing each other up, double-teaming on an opponent, trying to protect companions who were in most danger, etc. It was a little too late to change the outcome of this particlar battle, considering the damage they'd already taken, but it was a nice change for a group which usually fights as six un-coordinated individuals, and hopefully will carry through to future combats and keep them alive longer. I'm all about the tough love

 

[Nightfall]

Eh. This is just tough love lite. You want real tough love, werewolves and Moon daemon runing among along with Slitheren and were-rats. Now THAT'S tough fighting! And I can do it outdoorsy too!