DM : "Your fighter does too much damage. Drop the belt of strength."

[Felon]

The stats the OP presented for this character, however, have no balancing weakness that I can find; he's got hugemongous stats tho (28 20 20 16 16 16???)

So, before adjustments for race and level, we're in the arena of 18, 17, 16, 16, 16, 16? Something like a 50-point stat-buy character? If the DM handed out stats like that, he should expect OTT characters.

And frankly, I think the DM's a bit of a boob to nix the magic item rather than the template or PrC.

 

[irdeggman]

I'm pretty sure the Dragonspawn template is from the Dragonlance setting not Races of the Dragon. Is it fair use to post it here? If so I can do that later today.

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So now we have Eberron setting specific prestige class and feat and Dragonlance race all in a Greyhawk campaign.

Anyone else see issues with this?

 

[3d6]

I think the biggest problem with the character is the ability scores. He has 11 HD, so he's gained +2 to ability scores from level. All his ability scores are even, so I assume that he used point buy to generate the character. Assuming the previously posted stats for the red dragonspawn template are correct, then he started with Str 18, Dex 16, Con 16, Int 14, Wis 14, Cha 12. That's insane. If the DM is actually allowing 52 point buy, then he should expect every single character in his campaign to be an unstoppable killing machine.

The DM is being rather silly if he's complaining about ~30 damage per hit at that point. It's rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

 

[JoeGKushner]

The prestige class ability is the main problem, IMO--I'm thinking the designers didn't think about the possibility of the class being taken by extremely high-Str characters..

This happens often.

For example, there is a feat called two-handed power strike. It's an unofficial one. It doubles your strength bonus when fighting with a two-handed weapon.

One of my friends loves it and keeps trying to get me to put it in my campaign. I've outlawed it because it doesn't scale well.

At 18 strength +4 to +6 to +8 isn't bad.

At 26 strength +8 to +12 to +16 is getting a little out of control.

 

[Felon]

At 26 strength +8 to +12 to +16 is getting a little out of control.

It's not just out of control, it's kinda boring. As is the Revenant Blade ability. I have no problem with characters with high damage potential, but how about feats and class features that involve some sort of tactical element? Say what you will about two-handed power-attacking, at least that requires some decision-making.

 

[Seeten]

I had 2 hand power strike on my last barbarian, Joe, its foolish. Don't allow it. After a few combats we retconned it back off at my request.

 

[Mercule]

So, before adjustments for race and level, we're in the arena of 18, 17, 16, 16, 16, 16? Something like a 50-point stat-buy character? If the DM handed out stats like that, he should expect OTT characters.

That'd be 69 points, which is pretty close to triple the points of a "standard" character. My experience has been that each 8 additional stat points is worth about a +1 LA. Since there are probably diminishing returns, we'll round to +5 LA from stats. That means it's probably fair to put this character up against an EL 20.

 

[DM-Rocco]

Question,

The authoratative answer without a doubt is your D.M. is completely in error and being unreasonable. Your PC is legal both technically and within the spirit of the rules. Such a magic item is a given at such a high level and any experienced D.M. should know this. Your D.M.'s logic is flawed and his decision is capricious and will likely handicap your character excessively.

If you click on the number next to this post it will appear in its own Window. You can cut and paste the link and send it to your D.M. alternatively, you can print it out and send it to him/her.

This is the post you were hoping for - so there it is. Glad to be of service.

BE GADS MAN!!! Now he won't shut up

Or is this Question under another name

 

[sckeener]

Is that weighed point buy, and how is it weighed?

Per the DMG.

is did that 20 STR cost 22 points or all 24 of those points?

 

[JoeGKushner]

is did that 20 STR cost 22 points or all 24 of those points?

Eh? I think a 18 strength, which would be the maximum for a human, would cost... 14 of the 24 points. (Normally 16 points.)