Do you like the name "Golden Wyvern Adept"?

What do you think of the name "Golden Wyvern Adept"?

  • I like it.

    Votes: 65 23.0%
  • I want something that reminds me what it does.

    Votes: 174 61.7%
  • I object! Badgering the witness!

    Votes: 43 15.2%

  • Poll closed .
Mourn said:
The Mordenkainen, Bigby, Tenser's, Otiluke's and all those are more than just 1-2 spells. They probably comprise as much of the spell list as the wizard tradition feats comprise of the total feat list.

And most of them have other elements to the name that strongly imply what the spell does. I'm content to have named spells because the rest of the name is sufficiently descriptive.
 

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Mourn said:
The Mordenkainen, Bigby, Tenser's, Otiluke's and all those are more than just 1-2 spells. They probably comprise as much of the spell list as the wizard tradition feats comprise of the total feat list.
But, MOURN! Bigby and Tenser and Mordenkainen existed before 3e, and as a result, must have inherent awesomeness. Because they're from The Great Olden Days of Yore. ;)
 

billd91 said:
Except that names like Beasthide Elite suggest something to do with the hide of a beast... natural armor. Longstride Elite... faster movement. Cliffwalk Elite... something to do with climbing. The name implies something.

Golden Wyvern Adept... You're adept at... something?
If I'm looking at a stat block, I'd like a little more assistance, particularly when the use of the feat is something voluntary and not already figured into the stats or modifiers elsewhere.

Flavor is good, but not if it leads to too much ambiguity.
It seems that you have no problem with the name "(magic school) Adept", it is just that you don't like the name Golden Wyvern as a description for whatever it is that Golden Wyvern does, is that right? I can understand that.

As much as I like the idea of the Magical Traditions and the like, I will admit that I find the names to be somewhat lacking...
 

Cadfan said:
I'm fine with it.

Its the sort of addition/change to the game that affects me in exactly zero ways.
I agree with that. The player or DM can always change the name to something else. Unless, that is, the feat is part of a broader flavour theme for the character, which requires the PC to be tied down to a Golden Wyvern progression of some sort. But it wouldn't be that inflexible, would it?
 

Stormtalon said:
I'd've voted, but there's no option for: "It's a complete and total non-issue and thus I have zero opinion one way or another."

Honestly, it ain't worth gettin' worked up about.
That's what the third option is for, obv.

Actually, I regret making that option so temptingly humourous. Damn my razor wit! Damn it to hell!
 

Goken100 said:
That's what the third option is for, obv.

Actually, I regret making that option so temptingly humourous. Damn my razor wit! Damn it to hell!
Out of curiosity, can you use tags in poll options? It'd have been a nice touch to make the third one an Objection! link. Or maybe that'd be too Anime. I dunno.
 

billd91 said:
And most of them have other elements to the name that strongly imply what the spell does. I'm content to have named spells because the rest of the name is sufficiently descriptive.
One might notice that for the most part, removing the proper noun from the spell's name, as they do for the SRD, reveals a name that very concisely describes what the spell does. The presence or absence of the proper noun is completely irrelevent to whether the name describes the spell's effect.
 

The problem with "functional" names is that they are misleading as often as they are helpful, and it really starts to get confusing with a lot of feats because you start getting a whole bunch of synonyms for basically the same thing representing entirely unique effects in the game.

The best approach is to form easily recognizable naming conventions that gives the person looking up the feat some sort of pattern to recognize: "Oh, hey, the feat that lets me deform my area effects, it's one of those color/animal [or some other X/Y pattern] feats?" "Golden Wyvern? PHB."

Also, we're only basing this off the text. A Golden Wyvern would be a unique visual signature for when you're searching for it. Some people think visually, so I don't think it's a bad idea if they could match an icon to a feat. They probably won't go that far, but just the image the name invokes might be helpful.

I guess I see the organizational benefits if they are actually using it as such.
 

Stogoe said:
But, MOURN! Bigby and Tenser and Mordenkainen existed before 3e, and as a result, must have inherent awesomeness. Because they're from The Great Olden Days of Yore. ;)

I think I mentally remove those names from the spells. I'm not down with that old-timey Greyhawk stuff either. ;)

But seriously, as someone else here mentioned it's really easy to remove the names from the spells. Acid Arrow, nice and neat. I don't even know who Melf is supposed to be? Is he that muppet alien who ate cats?
 

I don't have a problem with the name, though I voted for the middle option.
Unless there is some flavor about it that I choose to embrace, I am probably rename the feat "Spell Sculpting Adept," and I leave the name to anyone who wants to use it.
 

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