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D&D 5E Do you think we'll see revised core books in 2024? (And why I think we will)

Do you think we'll see revised core rulebooks in 2024? And if so, which option?


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imagineGod

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Also basically psychology of friendship here. I am eagerly awaiting a positive quote, somebody who quotes me to support a point rather than attack it.

You may wonder why Facebook and social media in general tend to look so hostile, because humans are more apt to criticize rather than praise.

I worked in technical support so see the sane trend. It is broken, please fix it. But rarely, thank you, a great job.
 

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imagineGod

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I didn't make an assumption. I made an assertion, in response to yours.


This claim is extremely contentious. I've met many moral philosophers and don't think I've ever met one who adopted this view. Again, therefore, I don't think this is a very stable platform from which to launch an argument.

And what does this tell us about the continued place of Orcs in D&D and similar FRPGing?
So what short hand have you used, please, enlighten me, because everything can always be split into binary. This very computing device you use to argue with me is run on ones and zeroes. In reality, the voltages are not that, just a threshold is considered to be the on position the one, and a lower voltage zero.

I mentioned that good and evil are abstractions of complexity into rudimentary set theory.

And a common frame of reference is important. One very big reason internet arguments get so diabolical. Is the lack of a common frame of reference. Like before we can even argue, we need to define terms, since so many no longer even speak the same language of ideas.

I am a minority myself, and I do not see the fictional Orcs representing any real people, they are an amalgamation of tropes.

I notice you skipped the fictional Vistani in Ravenloft versus very real world Eastern European Romani trope still causing hurt in that region, while the fictional Vistani trope that offends Americans mostly, is not used in that part of the world's real politics, where, yes, real politics actually makes Romani lives terrible

Please do not conflate reality with fantasy.
 

imagineGod

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We are going in circles between different groups on issues already talked to death, so I will not post here again, unless somebody drags me into conversations with a quote.
 
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imagineGod

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2024. good year for 5.5E as it is 50th anniversary,
2034. good year for 6E as it 60th anniversary,
You may be unto a winner. And then 6e could be radically different, since that is a full generation too.

Positive quotes are possible.
 
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Umbran

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Mod Note:
Is this thread supposed to be about orcs and racism? Because that argument has been had seventeen times already, and I don't see a one of you taking a particularly new position.
 



Sepulchrave II

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I promise that I'm not going to mention orcs.

But I would like to point out that arguing from "archetype" is fallacious. "Archetype" is unevidenced. "Archetype" is the conceit of one eccentric Swiss gentleman whose entire body of psychological, philosophical and mystical speculation is just that....speculative. And replete with confirmation bias.

The fact that "archetype"' was popularized by Joseph Campbell, the New Age movement and George Lucas does not make it a real thing.
 



imagineGod

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I am not sure if you noticed, but mods and their warnings about orc racism discussions
Seriously, that is over reaching. Or you just feel like quoting me for some reason.

I read that sentence you quoted. By all marketing so far, official WoTC D&D 5e remains a fantasy RPG, so certainly fantasy will be the core of D&D5. 1 or even 5 5.

I have backed some Third Party Publishers 5e Kickstarters like Stargate 5e that are a bit SF or Carbon 2185 that is 5e Cyberpunk.
 
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Mercurius

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But I would like to point out that arguing from "archetype" is fallacious. "Archetype" is unevidenced. "Archetype" is the conceit of one eccentric Swiss gentleman whose entire body of psychological, philosophical and mystical speculation is just that....speculative. And replete with confirmation bias.

The fact that "archetype"' was popularized by Joseph Campbell, the New Age movement and George Lucas does not make it a real thing.
Nor does it make it a false thing, which you imply by using the word "fallacious." Further, just because you don't like Jung doesn't mean that his ideas aren't relevant (or "fallacious"), not to mention his huge influence. It just likely means you fall on the Freud side of the Freud/Jung divide.

Meaning, feel free to say "I don't like Jung," but to say that using his ideas (which aren't only his ideas - Plato also talked about archetypes, as have many other philosophers and psychologists) is fallacious is, well, fallacious.
 

Umbran

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Seriously, that is over reaching. Or you just feel like quoting me for some reason.

Mod Note:
The guy was actually trying to help you avoid this red text you are getting now.

You cannot seem to let go of this, and are now dragging it around from one thread to another. Enough, already. You're done in this thread, and I strongly caution you from bringing it up again any time in the near future.
 
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Sepulchrave II

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Nor does it make it a false thing, which you imply by using the word "fallacious." Further, just because you don't like Jung doesn't mean that his ideas aren't relevant (or "fallacious"), not to mention his huge influence.

I imply nothing. The fallacy is one of logic. You can infer whatever you like.
It just likely means you fall on the Freud side of the Freud/Jung divide.

It is 2021, not 1921.
Meaning, feel free to say "I don't like Jung,"
I have a great deal of affection for Jung and many other speculative mystics.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
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Wow.

Well, it’s official, folks. We can’t have a thread about possible new editions of D&D because obvious reasons.

Thread closed.
 

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