Doctor Strange Sorceror Supreme

[Tony Vargas]

Conjured Weapon - Basically anything from swords, to staves and axes.. its a matter of style because the weapons are all functionally manifestations of arcane power rather than actual things... most are fancy in appearance jewel encrusted etc.

I don't recall anything like this until the animated movie a number of years ago, then everyone was doing it. ??

Seraphimic Shield -

You just hit an obscure pet peeve of mine. [sblock] There was a guy I used to game (Champions! & GURPS, mostly) with who always said it that way "Seraphimic" when it's the Shield(s) of the Seraphim. Seraphimic is just a weird form of the word, considering it's not an English word - 'Seraphim' is plural, Seraph is singular, so the Anglicized adjective form might legitimately be Seraphic (one on-line dictionary, at least, seems to think so). Plus, _____ of ______ always sounded cooler in Dr Strange, and D&D sure leans the same way.

Don't know why stuff like this bothers me...

...actually, I do, that old friend could be really annoying - I liked him, he was a good friend, but he could be annoying. [/sblock]



So, very basic questions...

Is Strange really that 'Arcane?' I mean, occult, or natural-language arcane, sure, certainly. He uses martial arts, studied in Tibet, and has psychic powers, certainly, that could as easily be Psionic, in spite of the occult trappings. Similarly, he 'serves' the Vishanti, who are god-like, could be Divine, like an Invoker, he certainly does a lot of Invoking, doesn't he?

But, like a dictionary-definition sorcerer, he gets a lot of his power from otherworldly entities. In D&D, would they be Deities? (The Vishanti seem that way.) Arch-Fey? Far-Realms? (Shumagorath, certainly would've been.) Spirits (they're from other dimensions, so not really primal spirits). Devils? (several pass for /the/ Devil) Etc... That's sounding Warlocky, isn't it? Which'd be back to Arcane.

...hmmmmm....

 

[Garthanos]

I don't recall anything like this until the animated movie a number of years ago, then everyone was doing it. ??

Yes It was quite a new thing... they usually present Strange as having at least a couple of things that make him different than the other Sorcerors. One is usually that he is talented and learns real fast ( even if he is blocked on one power source he easily adapts to another), I generally argue that is just not very translatable except to say he is a PC and it is rude to fully undermine your players.

So, very basic questions...

Is Strange really that 'Arcane?' I mean, occult, or natural-language arcane, sure, certainly. He uses martial arts, studied in Tibet, and has psychic powers, certainly, that could as easily be Psionic, in spite of the occult trappings. Similarly, he 'serves' the Vishanti, who are god-like, could be Divine, like an Invoker, he certainly does a lot of Invoking, doesn't he?

But, like a dictionary-definition sorcerer, he gets a lot of his power from otherworldly entities. In D&D, would they be Deities? (The Vishanti seem that way.) Arch-Fey? Far-Realms? (Shumagorath, certainly would've been.) Spirits (they're from other dimensions, so not really primal spirits). Devils? (several pass for /the/ Devil) Etc... That's sounding Warlocky, isn't it? Which'd be back to Arcane.

...hmmmmm....

Philosophically he is rather Warlock like because he doesnt worship his power sources...
In story He was able to switch to Gaian force, ie Primal once... I think the DM allows his players to rebuild periodically if its fun for the story.

I was thinking a heavy dose of Mage because some specific powers were good

And even if he is "warlock" like in his relationship with the arcane power the D&D locks are shooting for a different style of power than Stranges Core stuff most of the time.

Marvel Universe has 3 primary power sources, Personal (like psychic), Environmental(like primal but not so much spirits -- but can be in some flavors) and Extra-dimensional.(like Gods and Super Demons)

As Sorcerer Supreme he exploits all three.

They also like to exploit the buddhist bodhisatva... transcendant defender story line...

 

[Garthanos]

One of the powers to make Strange Different than most sorcerers abilities Strange has had was a Sorcerers Sphere which allowed him to absorb magical attacks

And in the fiction of that animated movie he also had the complete rejection of the physical weapon and the dash of pacifistic regrets.