Does 3.5e break the Epic Level Handbook?

[Kai Lord]

I was thinking of picking up the Epic Level Handbook, but I'm not sure if it will be practical with 3.5e coming out in a few months. Do you think there will be enough changes that the Epic Level Handbook will need major errata? Or is it different enough that the changes in 3.5e will not effect epic level play in any way?

I wouldn't worry too much. Andy Collins, the most outspoken and informative designer of the Epic Level Handbook, is spearheading the Revised Rules. I'm sure he'll be keeping an eye on the compatibility of both.

 

[Jolly Giant]

The EHL is pretty much what I wanted it to be; I really don't see what you guys've got against it... And from what I've heard about about 3.5 so far, the only thing I can think of that will become obsolete is the 'Beast Wildshape'-feat already mentioned.

 

[Darkness]

Oh, tish tosh!

I think the answer is the same for all the books. What will happen is that some things will not be compatible (a la the "Beast Wildshape") but 95% of the book will likely still be very useable. After all, most of the changes are minor ones (DR specifications, Wilderness Lore DC's become Survival DC's, threatened area for larger monsters, etc.)

I seriously doubt we will see the skill DC's change, nor 99% of the feats, or the magic items section.

Wait a minute. We know that they will change a lot of classes.
So at least the continued utility of the epic class progressions is suspect.

 

[aliensex]

Thanks guys. I decided not to get the ELH right now, since I won't be conceivably using it for some time yet. I ordered Savage Species and the Arms and Equipment Guide (package deal).

Can't wait!

 

[aliensex]

Interesting review Hardhead. I have read a few different reviews, and they generally seem to be mixed. I think Epic Level play would invariably get boring, since 90% of the challenges in most worlds become insignificant. I can't imagine a good epic game, past 30th level, really keeping any steam going. It seems like this would be just a good source for NPCs from 21-28 levels, to really challenge 17-20 level parties.

 

[Hardhead]

Yeah, I agree. Actually, I will say that I think the ELH can hang together, balance-wise, for about five levels, that is, up to 25th or so. But I don't think it's worth your money to buy a $40 book for five levels of play.