Does bull's Str stack with Belt of Str?

[Goolpsy]

The titel says it all pretty much... and i've never really thought about it... even though i've been Dm'ing a whole lot...

I've always thought that a Spell such as Bull's strenght would stack with an item giving a strenght bonus... yet still.. 2 spells wouldn't.. neither 2 items.

I was chatting with some of my players before a session.. waiting for the rest of them to come..
Me: "I could be awesome to have an item storing a cats bull's strenght spell together with those +4 Strenght gloves.. It would be an awesome Strenght bonus altogether"
Friend: "Remember.. they would stack"
Me: "Oh ye true.. but would be cool still"
Me thinking: "wtf they don't? not even a chance?"

So now i am asking you guys and girls.. Do they stack?


Even if they don't, i dont think it would ruin the balance having them stack.. u actually DID pay for that item(hopefully).. and it cant be true that such spells a bulls strenght is useless at higher levels when everything is wearing everything + 6 ..or?

 

[Tinker Gnome]

No it does not.

 

[Palskane]

As far as I know, you get whichever bonus is higher, and they do not stack.

 

[Corsair]

Specifically:

Two bonuses of the same type do not stack.

Bull's strength provides an enhancement bonus to strength.

Gauntlets of Strength provide an enhancement bonus to strength.

Same bonus type. No stacking.

 

[fba827]

Look at the text of the item (I don't have it with me). It says what _type_ of +4 strength it gives. More than likley it says "enhancement".

This is the same type that is given by Bull's Strength. Bonuses of the same type description do not stack (with an exception of dodge bonus types and some circumstance bonuses).

 

[domino]

Both Bull's Strength and Gloves of Strength give an enhancment bonus to strength, so no, they do not stack.

 

[Goolpsy]

Damn, i was afraid so. But doesn't this render the spells useless at higher levels whne everyone if wearing some neat gear??

and if you just make better spells... then why should the people even Wear any of that neat gear.. when the spells are alot more powerful...
ex new spell: Ledendary strenght: +15 strenght last for 8 hours etc..
thats the time of an adventure... wizard buffs everyone in the morning.. and they are all good and ready to go.. ??

 

[RigaMortus]

Damn, i was afraid so. But doesn't this render the spells useless at higher levels whne everyone if wearing some neat gear??

Because the right gear isn't always as accessable like spells are. Unless you tell your DM "Look man, in our next adventure, I need you to put this magic item, and this magic item and this magic item in the game. Ok?"

and if you just make better spells... then why should the people even Wear any of that neat gear.. when the spells are alot more powerful...
ex new spell: Ledendary strenght: +15 strenght last for 8 hours etc..
thats the time of an adventure... wizard buffs everyone in the morning.. and they are all good and ready to go.. ??

Because it uses up a spell slot that the Wizard could have used for another spell...

 

[Goolpsy]

That another spell could jsut as well be in the item the fighter choose instead of the strenght boost item... and still get a better bonus...

 

[Asmo]

On a related matter:
Olw´s Wisdom grants a enhanchement bonus to Wisdom, and so do Periapt of Wisdom.
Olw´s Wisdom doesn´t grant any bonus spells. What about Periapt of Wisdom? Does it grant bonus spells?
If it does, why?

Asmo