D&D General Does Cleric/Druid get 2x wis bonus to Arcana checks?

[Zardnaar]

Hmm I’d personally say no to be honest. Not that Arcana is OP or anything, but my philosophy has been that the same effect, regardless of source, doesn’t stack. Keeps things simpler and helps me discourage power gaming, which, while is not “badwrongfun”, is not my preference in character building.

To each their own, of course.

Its not the same effect though. Overlap on Arcana skill.

Wife wants to play knowledge cleric next. Mentioned this combo to her and Arcana skill will be important next game.

 

[Bae'zel]

Its not the same effect though. Overlap on Arcana skill.

That’s not how I interpret it: to me is IS the same effect: “add your WIS bonus to Arcana checks”. But whatever, each table will make their own ruling. That’s fair.

 

[Zardnaar]

That’s not how I interpret it: to me is IS the same effect: “add your WIS bonus to Arcana checks”. But whatever, each table will make their own ruling. That’s fair.

Its an unarmed bonus from two different sources. RAW they stack.

Two bless soelks don't. Something like bless+ peace cleric ability stacks.
Boosting different modifiers to hit also stacks so RAW, RAI and how people play are all leaning towards yes imho.

Another example. True strike. Level 6 celestial warlock ability and Agonizing blast all stack and lvl 3 devotion Paladin. All similar but different.

If magician/thaumaturgy were you may use your wisdom modifier instead they wouldn't stack.

 

[Bae'zel]

Its an unarmed bonus from two different sources. RAW they stack.

Two bless soelks don't. Something like bless+ peace cleric ability stacks.
Boosting different modifiers to hit also stacks so RAW, RAI and how people play are all leaning towards yes imho.

Another example. True strike. Level 6 celestial warlock ability and Agonizing blast all stack and lvl 3 devotion Paladin. All similar but different.

If magician/thaumaturgy were you may use your wisdom modifier instead they wouldn't stack.

Okay, we’ll have to agree to disagree here. Again though, this is all irrelevant to me because I don’t allow multiclassing anyway in my campaigns so most of these won’t come up anyway.

It all comes across to me as power gaming, which is fine if that’s what you like. But I personally don’t and I find 2024 PCs to be super duper strong already.

 

[cbwjm]

Does that count as power gaming? All it does is make someone really good at arcana, it's not a skill which will break the game.

 

[Zardnaar]

Does that count as power gaming? All it does is make someone really good at arcana, it's not a skill which will break the game.

Heh yeah its marginal.

Cleric/druid is the true power part. Even a 1 level splash can give clerics absorb elements and that new casualty cantrip and a lot of utility 1st level spells. Reverse gives Druids command. A few levels xan vault druid into upper tier damage dealer later tier 2 or early 3

 

[FrogReaver]

Does that count as power gaming? All it does is make someone really good at arcana, it's not a skill which will break the game.

Hold my beeer!

 

[Seramus]

Hold my beeer!

Get +50 or more to Arcana. Try creating artifact level magic items.

 

[Zardnaar]

Get +50 or more to Arcana. Try creating artifact level magic items.

Shades of 3.x.

 

[TaranTheWanderer]

The extra attack feature doesn't stack when you multi-class. But I think it specifically calls out that it doesn't stack so maybe not a good comparison.