Does Expert Tactician stack with Haste?

[Crothian]

D'oh. I read right over it. Thanks for the help!

No problem, I've done that myself a few times.

 

[BigAl]

With regards to weapons of speed and stacking with Haste, I believe that you cannot get an extra attack in both your standard action AND your extra partial action - you only get one extra attack with the weapon regardless of your Hasted status.

Some people seem to believe that this means that you don't get an extra partial action when you are hasted if you have a weapon of speed.

Al

 

[kreynolds]

With regards to weapons of speed and stacking with Haste, I believe that you cannot get an extra attack in both your standard action AND your extra partial action - you only get one extra attack with the weapon regardless of your Hasted status.

That would be incorrect.

Some people seem to believe that this means that you don't get an extra partial action when you are hasted if you have a weapon of speed.

Some people believe that because they are right.

Skip,

There is a lot of conjecture on message boards regarding weapons of speed and haste and how they DO or DO NOT stack.

Since the description of the speed ability says that it does not stack with haste, I take that to mean that if you are hasted, you have 2 choices:
1) Use the extra action granted by haste (for whatever).
2) Use the extra attacks granted by your speed weapons.
This is how I've been handling it as a DM. (Which means "God I hope I'm right!)

My question is simple. If you are hasted, can you use the speed ability of your weapons (assume there are two) in any way?

The DMG is correct, the speed property does not stack with haste. When hasted, use the extra attack from the weapon or the extra attack (or partial action) from the haste effect, not both.

Skip Williams
RPG R&D