Dominate?

[Kinneus]

Where I can find the rules for the 'dominated' condition? They're not in the glossary of the MM, which is where I thought they were all this time...

 

[-Avalon-]

They are in the PHB... in that conditions area that isn't listed in the index for some unknown reason...

 

[Kinneus]

Ah, so it is. No idea why I thought it was in the MM. Thank you.

 

[Nikosandros]

Can you issue a suicidal order to a dominated character?

 

[Hammerhead]

Can you issue a suicidal order to a dominated character?

No. Why would you think that you could?

 

[Nikosandros]

No. Why would you think that you could?

Because I couldn't find any rule that prohibits it. The dominating creature chooses the action and the only provision seems to be that encounter and daily powers can't be used.

 

[Amphimir Míriel]

Because I couldn't find any rule that prohibits it. The dominating creature chooses the action and the only provision seems to be that encounter and daily powers can't be used.

So a sadistic DM could include an encounter that features a creature capable of dominate and a 100 meter cliff?

 

[Pale Jackal]

Heh, sadistic being the key word there.

Because I couldn't find any rule that prohibits it. The dominating creature chooses the action and the only provision seems to be that encounter and daily powers can't be used.

While I understand that you probably want a RAW approach: if the rules forbid something as relatively trivial as an Encounter power being used by the Dominating monster, I don't think they intended Domination monsters to be able to suicide a character.

 

[Nikosandros]

While I understand that you probably want a RAW approach: if the rules forbid something as relatively trivial as an Encounter power being used by the Dominating monster, I don't think they intended Domination monsters to be able to suicide a character.

It's a very reasonable assumption and I certainly wouldn't allow it in my games, but I'm wondering if the rules say anything about this issue.

 

[webrunner]

Dominate has a lot of questions that just seem like they should be disallowed from the rules even though they're not:

By the rules:
- You can make a Dominated creature move into Hindering Terrain without a save. The save applies only to push, pull, and slide.
- A dominated creature provokes opportunity attacks by it's movement for the same reason
- A dominated creature, if given two turns, can pull anything out of his pack and throw it into a pit of lava or over a cliff is one is available.
- A dominated creature can intimidate another creature into surrendering if it's bloody.

And another thing is that by the rules, it doesn't say who counts as 'enemy' and 'ally' to a dominated creature, which matters in cases like "Each enemy in burst"