Double Rage; Triple Rage by now
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FEADIN
My love is on Asgard
I think rage bonuses are overlaping ....from wotc:
Let's go over the exceptions to the rules plus a few other things of note as we wrap up the article focused on this question: Does it Stack?
Exceptions to the Rules for Stacking Bonuses
As with many things in the D&D game, the general rules are simple -- it's the exceptions that become difficult. Let's look at a few.
Bonuses of the Same Type
As noted earlier, bonuses of the same type (and with the same name) don't stack, but that's not always true:
Circumstance Bonuses: Circumstance bonuses stack when they arise from different circumstances. For example, you might get a circumstance bonus to Move Silently checks when you're walking on a soft surface, such as sand or moss. You might also get a circumstance bonus to Move Silently checks when moving in a very noisy environment.
Dodge Bonuses: A dodge bonus affects your Armor Class. All dodge bonuses stack. Most bonus types have names so that you can tell which one you can stack. A dodge bonus is named so that you can tell when you get it and when you don't. For example, you can't use dodge bonuses when you're flat-footed or anytime you're denied a Dexterity bonus.
Unnamed Bonuses
A bonus that doesn't have a name stacks with anything except itself. This is always true, but it's sometimes hard to remember. For example, many feats provide unnamed bonuses, so don't panic when you read a feat description and it provides a bonus without a name. An unnamed bonus from a feat stacks with any other bonus; however you can't stack that unnamed bonus if you take the feat twice.
Synergy Bonuses: What once was called a synergy bonus in the previous version of the D&D game is now just an unnamed bonus. For example, if you have 5 or more ranks in the Handle Animal skill, you get a +2 bonus on Ride checks and wild empathy checks. As an unnamed bonus, this stacks with other bonuses you might have to Ride checks or wild empathy checks.
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A Final Word
That's about all there is. There's not much to stacking bonuses. Just remember the basic rules:
Bonuses with different names stack.
Bonuses with the same names overlap (don't stack)
Bonuses with no names stack with any other bonuses (but not with themselves).
And remember the major exceptions:
Dodge bonuses stack with each other.
Circumstance bonuses stack when they arise from different circumstances.
Let's go over the exceptions to the rules plus a few other things of note as we wrap up the article focused on this question: Does it Stack?
Exceptions to the Rules for Stacking Bonuses
As with many things in the D&D game, the general rules are simple -- it's the exceptions that become difficult. Let's look at a few.
Bonuses of the Same Type
As noted earlier, bonuses of the same type (and with the same name) don't stack, but that's not always true:
Circumstance Bonuses: Circumstance bonuses stack when they arise from different circumstances. For example, you might get a circumstance bonus to Move Silently checks when you're walking on a soft surface, such as sand or moss. You might also get a circumstance bonus to Move Silently checks when moving in a very noisy environment.
Dodge Bonuses: A dodge bonus affects your Armor Class. All dodge bonuses stack. Most bonus types have names so that you can tell which one you can stack. A dodge bonus is named so that you can tell when you get it and when you don't. For example, you can't use dodge bonuses when you're flat-footed or anytime you're denied a Dexterity bonus.
Unnamed Bonuses
A bonus that doesn't have a name stacks with anything except itself. This is always true, but it's sometimes hard to remember. For example, many feats provide unnamed bonuses, so don't panic when you read a feat description and it provides a bonus without a name. An unnamed bonus from a feat stacks with any other bonus; however you can't stack that unnamed bonus if you take the feat twice.
Synergy Bonuses: What once was called a synergy bonus in the previous version of the D&D game is now just an unnamed bonus. For example, if you have 5 or more ranks in the Handle Animal skill, you get a +2 bonus on Ride checks and wild empathy checks. As an unnamed bonus, this stacks with other bonuses you might have to Ride checks or wild empathy checks.
..........................
A Final Word
That's about all there is. There's not much to stacking bonuses. Just remember the basic rules:
Bonuses with different names stack.
Bonuses with the same names overlap (don't stack)
Bonuses with no names stack with any other bonuses (but not with themselves).
And remember the major exceptions:
Dodge bonuses stack with each other.
Circumstance bonuses stack when they arise from different circumstances.
Thanee
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Krelios said:
Only when using the bastardized english spelling. The original latin plural of the word is 'boni', actually.
In german (Scharlata is german), the original latin spelling is used, so it's also 'boni'.
But yeah, in english 'boni' is wrong. But it surely is a word.
Bye
Thanee
Thanee
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Scharlata said:
I think the strongest one is the UA rule for the variant Rage class ability, which sets a precedence how to handle it in general. But it's also reasonable to assume, that both Rage abilities are similar enough to count as the same source for the stacking rules.
Bye
Thanee
And what language are these posts in? That's right... English. "Fakjaywnjayr" is also a word, "a combination of letters that has a significant meaning." That doesn't mean it's proper English or useful to the conversation.Thanee said:Only when using the bastardized english spelling. The original latin plural of the word is 'boni', actually.
In german (Scharlata is german), the original latin spelling is used, so it's also 'boni'.
But yeah, in english 'boni' is wrong. But it surely is a word.
Bye
Thanee
Now, back to the OP. A rage bonus shouldn't stack with another rage bonus for three reasons.
1) They're unnamed bonuses from the same source.
2) It would be overpowered.
3) You're angry, and suddenly you get... angry?
Patryn of Elvenshae
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Thanee said:Only when using the bastardized english spelling. The original latin plural of the word is 'boni', actually.
Actually, no.
The original Latin plural is "boni" if and only if you're dealing with the adjective form of the word (and, even then, only for certain genders of the noun so modified). Thus, "I received fourteen boni booster packs by going to the D&D Minis demo." Note that English, unlike many languages, does not have very strict adjective-noun agreement rules. Accordingly, "I received fourteen bonus booster packs by going to the D&D Minis demo," is completely correct English.
"Bonus" was not a noun in Latin - you would never say "I received a bonus today." If it had been, however, the "proper" plural would most likely have been "bonera."
Therefore, since "bonus" as a noun is an "English bastardization," as you call it, the proper way to pluralize it is according to the English rules for pluralization. Thus, "bonuses."
Scharlata
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Krelios said:
Krelios. You are an ignorant. From Latin: ignorare = to NOT know; ergo: Bonus, a, um (Singular), Boni (Plural)! Melior, optimus
That's definite! If you use a variant form of the plural of "bonus" because you ignore the right word, so be happy with it, but don't post untruths.
Furthermore, it's only doing you good, if you are capable of viewing beyond your own language barrier. That broadens your horizon so that you don't have to post stupid and/or arrogant blurb.
Patryn. That's incorrect, too. The plural of bonus = boni is reserved for the words: prerogative, wealth, advantage, property, fortune, preference, priority, use, profit, belongings, goods, merchandise, and estate.Patryn said:
Or are you both suggesting the Romans didn't knew THEIR language well enough to form the correct plural?
Regards.
P.S.: Ignoramus, igitur....
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