Dragon Challenge help my friend B.A.D.D. !

[Saladrex]

You don't get multiple attacks from BAB using natural weapons. The Dragon gets 1 bite, 2 claws, ect. regardless of a +100000 BAB.

So do I have to get the full attack to unleash all my attacs, or can they be unleashed all in a partial action?

Uh. Would this work? Simply grapple all of them? Perhaps one with a tail too?

In the case I have to spend a full attack to get all my attacks, if I usa a fly-by attack, can I use the 5 grapple attacks (4 claws, 1 bite) along the way in the same round?

 

[Forrester]

If I were a player, and not an idiot (which I am, and I'm not), I would make sure when spending my 200,000gp that I coughed up 900gp for Oil of Slipperiness.

Because I'm not an idiot, I know what Snatch is, and I know how bad it's going to be for me to get grappled by a dragon.

Now, the previously-mentioned AM-Field on a dragon's claw would take care of that problem, and be a nasty, NASTY surprise

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By the way, if I were adjudicating this battle, I would probably outlaw Wishes, Miracles, Gates, and Time Stops. Because:

1) Wishes/MIracles are a bitch to adjudicate -- unless all they do is duplicate lower-level spells. Even then, it's a bit wrong, because this is a one-shot combat, and the party members probably aren't going to care about losing 5000XP. Starting them out at only 1000xp above their minimum experience level is a good idea -- Wishes and Miracles will not be castable in this case.

2) Time Stop is one of those "Whoever casts it first wins" types of things, and should probably be Rule 0'd away for this combat.

3) Gates -- well, I think it takes awhile to cast it, in which case this might not be a big deal. But this battle is supposed to be between the Dragon and the 20th level spins. Not the Dragon's many cohorts and buddies against the (likely more numerous) party cohorts and buddies. Especially when we're talking about *Solars* and such. Regularly summoned monsters are okay, of course. Similarly, I'd ban Leadership.

Another call you're going to have to make is whether Dust of Disappearance protects against True Seeing (it probably should NOT) and whether Non-Detection foils True Seeing and See Invisibility (the official ruling is that it does . . . )

The Dragon, with his Blindsight ability, is going to detect whoever is within several hundred feet of him, down to the square -- I'm pretty sure.

The party will not have this ability. Meaning that if you can get an Improved Invisibility effect on the Dragon that the party cannot pierce, you will be sitting pretty. Dust of Disappearance is an option -- the range of True Seeing is only 120'. The Non-detection thing is probably even *better*, but I don't know what the saves for the party/dragon would look like. You'd have to do the math.

Of course, AM Field doesn't work well with Invisibility, does it?

 

[Wolf72]

kill, crush, destroy!

In the case I have to spend a full attack to get all my attacks, if I usa a fly-by attack, can I use the 5 grapple attacks (4 claws, 1 bite) along the way in the same round?

you have to use the full attack option, if you take multi-attack [feat in the beginning of the MM] your secondary attacks are only at a -2 rather than a -5.

see if the DM will give you better than avg hp ...

back to magic items: I would assume a red great wyrm would have a fairly accurate account of what's in it's lair ... something might be usable ... some ioun stones?

 

[Epametheus]

Gate's a standard action to cast, and no bargaining (or rewarding) involved if the task takes a number of rounds equal to or less than the caster's casting level.

The caster can control multiple creatures up to (caster level) total Hit dice, or a single creature of up to (caster level times 2) hit dice. Alignment only matters if the gate caster is a cleric, since gods have standards.

As something that needs to be pointed, AM-Fields don't affect Prismatic Spheres. So Hasted wizards can fly out of the sphere, cast a spell, and then fly back in -- and without taking the time out to Disjunction that Sphere, you'd never be able to touch them.

If multiple wizards are doing this, you're s.o.l.

 

[Saladrex]

As something that needs to be pointed, AM-Fields don't affect Prismatic Spheres. So Hasted wizards can fly out of the sphere, cast a spell, and then fly back in -- and without taking the time out to Disjunction that Sphere, you'd never be able to touch them.

If multiple wizards are doing this, you're s.o.l.

Not if I fly away for 20 rounds (Prismatic sphere's duration), since AMF will stay for 190 minutes
Anyway he won't be able to cast spells on me, because of the AMF.

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[Wippit Guud]

Well, everyone says a dragon is dead meat, I'm gonna prove it...

6 people from the board, and a voluntary DM, vs my dragon.
30 point buy, core and splat books, no cohorts or leadership, and they have to attack the dragon in it's lair.

I figure I've got them beat easy

http://www.enworld.org/messageboards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10654

 

[CRGreathouse]

So do I have to get the full attack to unleash all my attacs, or can they be unleashed all in a partial action?

You need a full attack.

In the case I have to spend a full attack to get all my attacks, if I usa a fly-by attack, can I use the 5 grapple attacks (4 claws, 1 bite) along the way in the same round?

No.