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Dragon Disciple Sword & Bite Attack

Jeb McDonald

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My greatsword wielding Sorc1/Fighter4 just advanced to 6th level and earned her 1st level in Dragon Disciple. Once she gains 2nd level DD and picks up her bite and claw attacks, I'd like to be able to use the greatsword as her primary weapon and the bite as a secondary attack. At the moment, I figure the greatsword would be at a -8 penalty and the bite at -4 (since it is a light weapon).
The problem is I can't find a feat which will reduce these penalties. The two weapon fighting feat states, "You fight with a weapon in each hand...." She doesn't. The Multiattack feat (from the MM) states, "A creature's secondary attacks with its natural weapons take only a -2 penalty." I don't think this applies to my situation either.
Am I missing something? Being too literal with the wording? My hope was I could take the two-weapon fighting feat and wind up attacking at -2 with both the greatsword and the bite...
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 

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If you have a secondary natural attack AND attack with a weapon, you simply get an additional attack (with your 2ndary natural attack) at -5. No penalty to your sword attack. See the 3.5e MM for examples (the half-dragon and half-fiend listings explicitly list their bite attack).

If you take Multi-Attack, your secondary natural attacks take only a -2 penalty. IMHO, it would apply here, but I can't back that up with an example.

-- N
 

SRD said:
Some creatures combine attacks with natural and manufactured weapons when they make a full attack. When they do so, the manufactured weapon attack is considered the primary attack unless the creature’s description indicates otherwise and any natural weapons the creature also uses are considered secondary natural attacks. These secondary attacks do not interfere with the primary attack as attacking with an off-hand weapon does, but they take the usual –5 penalty (or –2 with the Multiattack feat) for such attacks, even if the natural weapon used is normally the creature’s primary natural weapon.

So you attack with the greatsword normally, and make an extra bite attack with a -5 to hit, or -2 if you have the Multiattack feat.
 


Does this still apply once the DD has iterative attacks from BAB? I have a Ftr8/Sor2/DD4. Would I still make the three iterative attacks with my greatsword, and then get another attack at -5 with a claw?
 

mattmaz said:
Does this still apply once the DD has iterative attacks from BAB? I have a Ftr8/Sor2/DD4. Would I still make the three iterative attacks with my greatsword, and then get another attack at -5 with a claw?
Yes. Compare with the troll ranger from the MM (pg.247), which gets iterative attacks with a battleaxe in one hand, and can also claw with the other hand and bite at the same time.
 

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