Dragon magazine is considered official!

[Winternight]

Winternight: I think the point some of us have tried to make, is that "official" stuff is too meandering and potentially badly done in and of itself, especially if you open the floodgates and admit everything ever published in Dragon Magazine. It makes (as if it wasn't already) the "official" stamp completely meaningless.

Sorry 8if my English is bad. Maybe you misunderstood my posting.
I tried to say that official was something in the early 90. It defined rules there. It has set a standart. (also in AD&D).
But now every book has more powerful stuff in:
Compare several fighter builds:
one: core (3.0)
second: core and S&F
third: core(3.5) and everything else published before 3.5 with the official stamp on it (w/o dragon)

who will dish out most damage?
who will win?
I´d say the third. and that`s not because he has
more options but he has more powerful options.
Just compare one and two : mercurial great sword
yeah right
The gaming companies want to earn money, I do understand that, I even can apriciate that.
What I do not understand is, that they think their stuff just sells if it has bigger better more stuf in.
I have never run an original adventure, but I have bought many. Because
a) they set the mood of the game In SR different than in D&D, than in Star wars (from West end)
b) they give me ideas I change them for a (more or less) cool adventure. If you know the adventure you recognize it, but it doesn’t help ya. (not that I accuse my players of sneaking!)

In our gaming groups no one cares for what is official or not. If we like it we take it if we don`t like it we dump it. If it`s to powerfull/weak we tweak it. No matter if it has a WotC on it or is from a web side. After what I have seen for crap Wizard made after 3.0 we even prefer outside stuff.
Heck T$R was bad, but wizard? They made MtG, cool game but they also could print dollar bills instead. “no if you want to participate on our tournaments the cards your bought last year are illegal we are playing now 3.5 edition you have to buy nu stuff”

I sometimes think the doing those typos for purpose in.
*T&B Arcane trickser +3d6 and then after an half year of complains: “oh sorry dis was a typo it has to be +1d6”
*S&F PowerLunge :”add double the strength bonus to you damage”
“oh not the double …. “ I am not shure what the official policy is towards PowerLunge. I can read what is written and say: no not in mine campaign.

Official has become meaning less.

just to quote:
Rule 0:The Dm is the final arbiter, we can agree but on disagreement he says what goes in, after all he took the job this time, want to make it different? Nice, so DM for sometime and let me see if it fits your approach.

without any coments (that`s a lie by it self )

 

[Nifelhein]

To bring this back home, I've gotten some ideas on how I plan to do things when I take the reins in the next couple of months.

Knows what is most scary? I am on this thread sicne the beggining and have even before planned that... except that the setting already was decided, I proposed options, they chose Midnight, now we will se wht they want the game to be like, what to get out o it and how it should be directed...

I second your thoughts, that wold surely make evryone around here some good, ryard and greymarsh ahve, at least, made us stop and think, isnt it!

 

[d4]

There are no d4's in Star Frontiers, what could you possibly know about it? Did someone leave you on the table after a D&D game? Better than being left on the floor, I guess...

heh.

What would the ECL of a Dralasite be, do you suppose?

good question. i'd like to add them to my Star Wars d20 game... maybe we can campaign WOTC to put 'em in d20 Future.

(does WOTC even own the rights to Star Frontiers?)