dragon questions - breath weapon and hands

I had my gm okay a dragon species that has holy water as a breath weapon and would like a 2nd opinion on how it would work.

here's the details as best I can figure them out.

1. damage is based on d4s and is a cone. It is based on the dragon 's size for range.
2. It does full damage that bipasses dr when used on lower plane creatures and undead.
3. The damage done by the straight breath weapon damage can be saved against for half damage. However, when used against a lower plane creature and/or undead. It does an additional 2d4 damage that cannot be saved against.

does this sound right or is their anything that needs to be tweaked?

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my dragon has a descent use magic device, but the gm is ruling I can't use my wands since I do not have proper hands.

What magic items are available to substitute hands?

I remember an item in savage species. If anybody remenbers the page # and cost, I would be most grateful.
 

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Shades of Eternity said:
I had my gm okay a dragon species that has holy water as a breath weapon and would like a 2nd opinion on how it would work.

here's the details as best I can figure them out.

1. damage is based on d4s and is a cone. It is based on the dragon 's size for range.
2. It does full damage that bipasses dr when used on lower plane creatures and undead.
3. The damage done by the straight breath weapon damage can be saved against for half damage. However, when used against a lower plane creature and/or undead. It does an additional 2d4 damage that cannot be saved against.

does this sound right or is their anything that needs to be tweaked?

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my dragon has a descent use magic device, but the gm is ruling I can't use my wands since I do not have proper hands.

What magic items are available to substitute hands?

I remember an item in savage species. If anybody remenbers the page # and cost, I would be most grateful.
First: are you suggesting that the holy deals damage to anything othere than lower-plane denizens and undead? I could see it hurting creatures from the plane of fire, and a reduced amount to those from earth, but not so much material plane folk.

Savage species: there are arms of the naga on page 55 that cost 56,000 gp; but I think what you mean are the Gloves of Man on p57 that cost 42,000 gp
 

Shades of Eternity said:
my dragon has a descent use magic device, but the gm is ruling I can't use my wands since I do not have proper hands.

What magic items are available to substitute hands?

I remember an item in savage species. If anybody remenbers the page # and cost, I would be most grateful.

Though the DM's ruling isn't wrong (as it's his game and he can rule it however he wants), there's nothing in the Use Magic Device description or the Wand description or the Spell Trigger Item description saying that you need proper hands (i.e., human hands) to activate them. Additionally, there's nothing in the Dragon description saying they don't have proper hands. (In fact, many fantasy sources describe dragons with hands that are just as nimble and "proper" as human hands, if not even moreso.)
 

Shades of Eternity said:
1. damage is based on d4s and is a cone. It is based on the dragon 's size for range.
2. It does full damage that bipasses dr when used on lower plane creatures and undead.
3. The damage done by the straight breath weapon damage can be saved against for half damage. However, when used against a lower plane creature and/or undead. It does an additional 2d4 damage that cannot be saved against.

Holy water shouldn't harm anything that isn't an undead or evil outsider. Period.

Now, if it's a powerful geyser-like blast of holy water, then I could see it doing half bludgeoning damage and half holy-water-damage. Then the bludgeoning part would affect other targets normally, while the holy-water part would only hurt undead and evil outsiders.

As others already mentioned, normally in the RAW you don't need hands to activate a wand; you just need something similar to hold the wand with, and a dragon's foreclaws would certainly suffice.
 

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