Dragon Shaman + Dragonfire Adept

[Master of the Game]

I have a player that wants to multiclass his Dragon Shaman to a Dragonfire Adept. He serves a silver dragon however, and would like for the breath weapon to remain frost and perhaps stack with the one he already has.

Thoughts?

 

[theredrobedwizard]

This would probably fall into the lines of a feat; like Skirmishing Ambusher (or whatever the feat is that allows Scout levels to mesh with Rogue to determine Skirmish ability).

Dragonfire Shaman
Requirements: Breath weapon ability from two different classes, ability to use Draconic Invocations, Draconic Resolve class feature.
Abilities: Your Dragonshaman levels count as levels of Dragonfire Adept for the purposes of determining the damage of your Dragonfire Adept breath weapon. You may also use the energy type granted by your Dragonshaman breath weapon instead of your Dragonfire Adept's energy type.

-TRRW

 

[Nifft]

My thought is: don't multi-class. Think of another way.

What aspect of Dragonfire Adept does he want? Breath effects? Those could be made into feats, and since the Dragon Shaman has a longer cooldown between breath weapons, they'd be mostly balanced as feats (which ironically they would not be if allowed as feats to Dragonfire Adept).

Invocations? Again, some would be reasonable feats, particularly the Least ones -- require level 6 in DS before he can take a Least, and level 12 before he can take a Lesser; perhaps one Greater at level 18. Impose arcane spell failure (just like the Dragonfire Adept faces). It balances itself okay because loss of armor is a big hit to the Dragon Shaman.

Both classes multi-class so poorly... I'd rather see someone rebuild his PC than multiclass those two (with anything, let alone each other).

Cheers, -- N

 

[DogBackward]

I think a lot of people are too quick to place limits on their players just because they themselves wouldn't do something, or don't like it. The way I see it, if your players don't like the characters they're playing, they won't be your players for long. Or shouldn't, anyway, though I'm sure plenty of people stick with games they can't stand because it's the only group around. I know I used to, until I found RPoL.

Anyway, I personally like the idea of a multi-class feat, but I think Mr. Redrobe's idea is a little weak, given that both classes do indeed face spellcaster-like penalties for multiclassing.

How 'bout this?

[sblock=Dragonfire Shaman]Prerequisites
Draconic Aura +1, able to use at least one Draconic Invocation, and a breath weapon derived from the Totem Dragon class ability
Benefits
Your Dragon Shaman and Dragonfire Adept levels stack for the purpose of your breath weapon's damage dice and area affected, but only for the breath weapon derived from your Totem Dragon. Any other breath weapon you gain automatically deals the same type of damage as that provided by your Totem Dragon.
In addition, your Dragon Shaman and Dragonfire Adept levels stack for the purpose of the Caster Level of your Draconic Invocations*, and the bonus provided by your Draconic Arua ability.[/sblock]

* I'm assuming that, like the Warlock, the Dragonfire Adept's Invocations don't actually deal more damage or anything based on CL. I don't actually have the book, I've only read over the class once or twice.

This allows you to increase the damage for the breath weapon with the cooldown rate. You can still use your Dragonfire breath weapon while your Shaman one recovers, but the damage will be much less, which seems to be a nice balancing factor.

You gain more effective Draconic Auras by taking Dragonfire Adept levels, but you don't learn any new auras, which seems to work OK.