Dragonalnce Campaign Setting
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Valiantheart
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jonesy said:
Interesting. So what happened with the giant Dragons? I kinda gave up around that time because the setting had turned into something so utterly different. How was that resolved?
Stormprince
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LordAO said:
I did say that it was a collabrative effort between WotC and Sovereign Press
The DLCS in particular.Christopher
Olive
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LordAO said:
As he explained above, it wasn't just WotC's fault. They wern't that happy with their attempts anyway. You shouldn't be having the argument because you're a niche fan who isn't interested in compromise, and can't begiun to take in to consideration the different needs and considerations of Sov. Stone's business needs, or the needs of other fans.
So leave it alone.
Stormprince
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Valiantheart said:
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Three of the big dragons are dead: Beryllintranox died attacking Qualinost, Khellendros and Malystryx were killed by the Prophet/High Priestess of the One God. All three were due in some part to the increasing power of the One God...which was revealed to be Takhisis. Frost (Gellidus) and Onysablet (Sable) are still alive and pretty much finding themselves dealing with a world where the gods, clerics, and High Sorcery has returned.
Christopher
Chris, do you even understand where I am coming from? You seem to think that I am being unreasonable somehow. That I am some spoiled gamer who wants everything and doesn't appreciate your hard work.
This is not true. I have tried to understand your position. Yes, I have worn the shoe on the other foot. But you don't seem to care the least bit about how I feel. Or do you? Have you even tried to understand my position? Or is it just easier to say that you can't please everyone, so why try?
I am not trying to be insulting, but I am a little offended by the attitude you have had in your posts. It's like you're trying to say that no matter what you guys do with Dragonlance, we should all march happily on and support it anyways. Maybe some people can do that, but I don't know if I can. You see, I play games to enjoy them, not out of loyalty, but out of fun.
I'm sure it was the same way for 4th Age Dragonlance fans when the world they knew and loved was completely destroyed, rearranged, and transformed into something almost unrecognizable. What did you tell them? Sorry, we can't please everyone?
And now it is happeneing again. At least try to show some sympathy and understanding for those of use on the other side. I'm sure Wizards of the Coast has put you in a very tough position. And for that I am very sorry. I'm sure that you are a wonderful game designer and that you have coe up with some wonderufl stuff for the DLCS despite what Wizards has done.
This is not true. I have tried to understand your position. Yes, I have worn the shoe on the other foot. But you don't seem to care the least bit about how I feel. Or do you? Have you even tried to understand my position? Or is it just easier to say that you can't please everyone, so why try?
I am not trying to be insulting, but I am a little offended by the attitude you have had in your posts. It's like you're trying to say that no matter what you guys do with Dragonlance, we should all march happily on and support it anyways. Maybe some people can do that, but I don't know if I can. You see, I play games to enjoy them, not out of loyalty, but out of fun.
I'm sure it was the same way for 4th Age Dragonlance fans when the world they knew and loved was completely destroyed, rearranged, and transformed into something almost unrecognizable. What did you tell them? Sorry, we can't please everyone?
And now it is happeneing again. At least try to show some sympathy and understanding for those of use on the other side. I'm sure Wizards of the Coast has put you in a very tough position. And for that I am very sorry. I'm sure that you are a wonderful game designer and that you have coe up with some wonderufl stuff for the DLCS despite what Wizards has done.
Stormprince
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LordAO said:
AO, yes, I do understand... I wasn't involved with SAGA, heck, I just started working in the industry 2 years ago.
But please understand where I am coming from. To hear an entire work, a work that took a considerable amount of wrangling, time, effort, blood, sweat, and tears to make happen, being condemned utterly and without all of the details of what was going on behind the scenes.
We had to deal with Fourth Agers and Fifth Agers fighting with one another over what was better.
We've been loudly condemned and berated on messageboards, mailing lists, and in emails because we're "not being true to Dragonlance."
We have Margaret as our primary guide for our work. We have worked with every author and collaborator that ever worked on Dragonlance. There was simply no way on earth that we could make everyone happy. We'd kill ourselves trying. We came bloody close to killing ourselves anyways with the deadlines that we had. For more than six months, Jamie, Margaret & I lived, breathed, and slept Dragonlance.
Then, we see messages on boards like this. Messages that even though we put our hearts and souls into a product once more berate us... you said that you'd never buy another Sovereign Press product again.
Yes, we can get a bit upset some times. We try our best to put forth as professional and polite a face upon our company as humanly possible. But that's just it... we're only human. And in the end, Dragonlance is just a game. It is about having fun, about playing in a world where you can enjoy your characters and adventures. If you honestly believe that the lack of freeform sorcery hinders your enjoyment of Dragonlance, then it is your right to either change the rules, use the fan rules that have been posted on Dragonlance.com, or even decide not to play the game. We can't force you. All we can do is continue to put out the best product that we can... and as long as we are happy with it, as long as we know that we put our best effort into it, and that at least someone enjoys it, that's all we can ask.
Christopher
Valiantheart
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Stormprince said:
Oh thanks. The prophet was that little girl the minotaur was following around right?
You're right. Perhaps I have been too harsh. I am only human too. I will check out the DLCS book and have a look at what you've done. I can't promise I will like it, but I will do my best to have an open mind. You deserve that much. I'm sure that you have done some really good work.
If I do end up playing Dragonlance once again, I can at least say that I wouldn't want to use the 3.5 Sorcerer. I wonder, you said you guys had worked on a 5th Age magic system that you ended up abandoning. How far did you get with it? Is there any possibility you could post it on Dragonlance.com so that those of use who don't like the 3.5 Sorcerer will have another option, one that doesn't need to be official?
If I do end up playing Dragonlance once again, I can at least say that I wouldn't want to use the 3.5 Sorcerer. I wonder, you said you guys had worked on a 5th Age magic system that you ended up abandoning. How far did you get with it? Is there any possibility you could post it on Dragonlance.com so that those of use who don't like the 3.5 Sorcerer will have another option, one that doesn't need to be official?
LivesForPain
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Stormprince, are you guys planning to release any modules for the DLCS? As a totally new DM, and a long time fan of DL, I'd love to play a campaign set on Krynn, but creating my own adventures is something currently far beyond my ability. I plan to pick up the campaign setting either way, but it would be cool to be able to run a game set in the world using a module untillearn what the hell I'm doing.
