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Dragonborn; Favorite racee?
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I have ranked how good I think the races are for for each class:
Cleric Elf(wis), Dwarf(wis), Dragonborn(str), Human(wis)
Fighter Dragonborn, Dwarf, Human
Paladin Halfling(cha)*, Dragonborn(str)2. (cha based
Ranger Elf(dex), Eladrin(dex)
Rogue Halfling, Elf
Warlock Thiefling, Half-elf, Human, Dwarf (in no particular order actually...)
Warlord Dragonborn(str/cha), Human(str)
Wizard Thiefling, Eladrin
On some classes like cleric, paladin and warlock you can actually choose what you want for a main stat. Cleric: wis OR str, paladin: cha OR str, warlock: cha or con. You get quite different characters depending on what path you choose. The advantages of playing a cha based paladin is that you can concentrate on cha and wis instead of str, cha and wis which is the other choice... The downside to it is that cha and wis are on the same save, so you probably shouldn't put that many points into wis...
I can't decide what kind of warlock would be any good, so I can't really decide what race is best suited to play it either...
Please comment or come up with your own ranking
*Halfling in 1st place due to their awesome tanking racial feats, you can actually dump stat str
Cleric Elf(wis), Dwarf(wis), Dragonborn(str), Human(wis)
Fighter Dragonborn, Dwarf, Human
Paladin Halfling(cha)*, Dragonborn(str)2. (cha based
Ranger Elf(dex), Eladrin(dex)
Rogue Halfling, Elf
Warlock Thiefling, Half-elf, Human, Dwarf (in no particular order actually...)
Warlord Dragonborn(str/cha), Human(str)
Wizard Thiefling, Eladrin
On some classes like cleric, paladin and warlock you can actually choose what you want for a main stat. Cleric: wis OR str, paladin: cha OR str, warlock: cha or con. You get quite different characters depending on what path you choose. The advantages of playing a cha based paladin is that you can concentrate on cha and wis instead of str, cha and wis which is the other choice... The downside to it is that cha and wis are on the same save, so you probably shouldn't put that many points into wis...
I can't decide what kind of warlock would be any good, so I can't really decide what race is best suited to play it either...
Please comment or come up with your own ranking
*Halfling in 1st place due to their awesome tanking racial feats, you can actually dump stat str
drjones said:
Same. My group has been overwhelmingly underwhelmed by most of the racial info, especially regarding Dragonborn and Tieflings.
Blackbrrd said:I have ranked how good I think the races are for for each class:
Cleric Elf(wis), Dwarf(wis), Dragonborn(str), Human(wis)
Fighter Dragonborn, Dwarf, Human
Paladin Halfling(cha)*, Dragonborn(str)2. (cha based
Ranger Elf(dex), Eladrin(dex)
Rogue Halfling, Elf
Warlock Thiefling, Half-elf, Human, Dwarf (in no particular order actually...)
Warlord Dragonborn(str/cha), Human(str)
Wizard Thiefling, Eladrin
On some classes like cleric, paladin and warlock you can actually choose what you want for a main stat. Cleric: wis OR str, paladin: cha OR str, warlock: cha or con. You get quite different characters depending on what path you choose. The advantages of playing a cha based paladin is that you can concentrate on cha and wis instead of str, cha and wis which is the other choice... The downside to it is that cha and wis are on the same save, so you probably shouldn't put that many points into wis...
I can't decide what kind of warlock would be any good, so I can't really decide what race is best suited to play it either...
Please comment or come up with your own ranking
*Halfling in 1st place due to their awesome tanking racial feats, you can actually dump stat str
I agree with most of your analysis, but I do think you should consider putting the Half-elf in your list for Paladin. Their scores are both beneficial, and, with the paladin's need for a decent Wisdom, they are well situated to take one of the cleric's at-wills 1/encounter. Of those, things like Sacred Flame and Priest's Shield are well suited to help the Paladin "defend" both themselves and others, and, as at-wills, they are already designed to improve with levels.
Dragonborn make solid Paladins and Warlords because they get to use both of their stat bonuses to full effect.
Dragonborn make less optimal Clerics, Fighters, Rangers, and Warlocks because they only get maximum utility out of one of their stat bumps (or decent utility out of complimentary secondary stats with the Cleric STR+CHA).
Dragonborn make poor Rogues because both their stat-bumps work on competing secondary stats.
Dragonborn make poor Wizards as none of their stat bumps are even in a secondary Wizard attribute (Wis, Con, Dex).
Honestly, a Human out-classes the Dragonborn in every class but the Paladin and Warlord just due the human's better Defense, extra At-Will, and extra Feat.
Dragonborn are excellent at STR+CHA mix classes and decent at STR/CHA classes. That's a good selection of classes, but in 75% of the classes there is a clearly superior competitor from another race.
- Marty Lund
Dragonborn make less optimal Clerics, Fighters, Rangers, and Warlocks because they only get maximum utility out of one of their stat bumps (or decent utility out of complimentary secondary stats with the Cleric STR+CHA).
Dragonborn make poor Rogues because both their stat-bumps work on competing secondary stats.
Dragonborn make poor Wizards as none of their stat bumps are even in a secondary Wizard attribute (Wis, Con, Dex).
Honestly, a Human out-classes the Dragonborn in every class but the Paladin and Warlord just due the human's better Defense, extra At-Will, and extra Feat.
Dragonborn are excellent at STR+CHA mix classes and decent at STR/CHA classes. That's a good selection of classes, but in 75% of the classes there is a clearly superior competitor from another race.
- Marty Lund
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