Paul Farquhar
Legend
Christianity, Judaism and Islam.now show me a societie in 5e that excepts mass murder or mind control as good and is out of game labled as good.
Christianity, Judaism and Islam.now show me a societie in 5e that excepts mass murder or mind control as good and is out of game labled as good.
of a game not a real person. in the real world we all have 1 POV (our own) in the game there is an overview POV (the reader/player/writer)I thought this was the philosophy thread.
hey it doesn't matter if my drone strike takes out 3 or 4 innocent families with kids if I get the terrorist right? that's good now right?So you would be cool with someone dropping a big rock on your neighborhood because one guy was a tax cheat?
none of those are in 5e try againChristianity, Judaism and Islam.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A GAMEThis may seem like an irrelevant aside, but, speaking as an Atheist, I don't think it does the atheist cause any good for people to attack the teachings of religions with the same level of virulence and fanaticism as the worst kind of fundamentalist.
This thread isn't about 5e. Try again.none of those are in 5e try again
edit: and don't bring up real world religions please
Sure, a particular act may not be good - it may even be monstrous. But how much does it determine the overall alignment of the being that did it? This is why the whole "good must be perfect" issue is just the paladin trapfall writ large.I am not going any further with this... killing a lot of innocent people can be shades of grey needed... it can be utilitarian, it can not be GOOD as described by D&D 5e.
I wish to discus the game not some real world hypothetical.
Mass murder is not an imperfection."good must be perfect"
No, YOU GUYS are trying to say that a major company should use a game to condemn the teachings of several major world religions as OBJECTIVELY EVIL.WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A GAME
You guys are the ones trying to draw a line to real world religions to try and make a cheap point.
then what do you want to talk about OTHER then 5e reframing of Dragonlance? cause that is what I am talking aboutThis thread isn't about 5e. Try again.
give up on real world religions please... this is a game board about a game of pretend elves and dragons, not real world religion.No, YOU GUYS are trying to say that a major company should use a game to condemn the teachings of several major world religions as OBJECTIVELY EVIL.
The line is there and inescapable: If something is OBJECTIVELY evil in a game, it is also OBJECTIVELY evil in real life. That's what OBJECTIVELY means.
I'm sorry, but I simply do not believe you. Everything you have said leads me to believe that you want to use Dragonlance as an excuse to attack religious belief. I do not believe you are incapable of understanding that the one automatically follows from the other.then what do you want to talk about OTHER then 5e reframing of Dragonlance? cause that is what I am talking about
This is now a personal attack. I didn't bring up real religon YOU did. YOU made this weird then accused me of attacking someone's religious beliefs.I'm sorry, but I simply do not believe you. Everything you have said leads me to believe that you want to use Dragonlance as an excuse to attack religious belief. I do not believe you are incapable of understanding that the one automatically follows from the other.
After all, if it where only a game, why would you care so much?!
Nor is it about real history, nor does it include moral issues of real impact. So what's the big deal about a cataclysm in its history that sets up the current situation?give up on real world religions please... this is a game board about a game of pretend elves and dragons, not real world religion.
Sure. And I don't see how the opinion of a few people on ENWorld about the Cataclysm matter to me. But here we both are.I don't see how 2 voices that were involved 30 years ago matter to me.
all I want to do is talk about a game.Nor is it about real history, nor does it include moral issues of real impact. So what's the big deal about a cataclysm in its history that sets up the current situation?
I hope so, since I was just insulted and said that I am attacking someone's religious beliefs over a game.This is gonna get red texted real fast if people don't back off from each other.
However, I dont think the conversation can really be handled on this forum, and its generated enough ill will over the last few days