Dragonslayers [Aftermath]

[Evilhalfling]

Redswan - okay so to answer questions - you will come up above where you went down.

your right about the numbering - I saw 6.5 as halfway through round 6, but since I normal post the end of the round, it actuall takes place before my round six post. 5.5 might be more accurate. You have the duration right for the windwall.

I will post the end of round six next prolly sat morning before my tabletop game. It will give the results of Honds and Aprhams actions and everyone else the chance to ready thier actions again.

 

[RedSwan78]

This could get *very* interesting...

So.. I was thinking.. lol I saw your post and thought the Dragon would have already been in the air.. and that it hadn't moved from the spot it surfaced at... Grim acts before the Dragon.. on Grim's turn, he casts WaterWalk - this shoots him 60 feet up untill he is standing on the water. Grim is now standing next to the ship, and there is a 5 foot square between him and the Dragon..

Question, what size is the Dragon? Is it the same size as Grim - Large? (that's what it looks like on the map?)

Grim still has a move action left, and with this move action he takes a 5 foot step moving next to the Dragon. The Dragon acts on it's turn. If it goes ahead and does what it was going to do, and take off into the air, it will move through Grim's threatened area in the process of doing so (because Grim is Large and has 10 foot reach). Grim gets an attack of opportunity.

Now here's where I'm a bit confused, and where this could possibly get VERY interesting.. and this is from my lack of playing much 3.5 - With Grim's AoO - can he do any of the "attack actions", so instead of attacking the Dragon with his sword, he.. uhm.. uses his AoO to grapple the dragon? LMFAO! (Dude, this is SOOOOO frickin hillarious to me in person sitting here - just the ludicrous-ness of GRAPPLING A FRICKIN' DRAGON! lol! Grim isn't really that great at grappling, and it's probably not the best choice of things to do, but I just CAN'T turn down the opportunity! hehe ) This really would depend on if the dragon's size is "Large", because if it was bigger than that, it'd pretty much be a no-go. I looked over the AoO part in the 3.5 handbook, but I couldn't really find anything. I remember in 3.0 you could use your AoO's to do any of the "attack actions" such as trip, disarm, grapple, etc.

Let me know the size of the Dragon and if this is all correct here what I'm thinking. (Regardless, Grim is still going to cast WaterWalk, shoot to the surface and move next to the Dragon so he can get a regular AoO on it if/when it tries to fly away...I just want to know if it's possible to use an AoO to grapple. Man.. I never really realized Enlarge Person was this fun! Mithran was right - I gotta memorize more of these! lol!)

 

[Evilhalfling]

Well the dragon is only large, but as for getting an AoO when unarmed (and thus not offcially threatening) is sticky. Grappling can be used during an AoO (footnote pg 141 PHB) And I would say that trying to grapple and hold a greatsword at the same time is a good way to either drop the great sword or get yourself cut.

 

[RedSwan78]

Well the dragon is only large, but as for getting an AoO when unarmed (and thus not offcially threatening) is sticky. Grappling can be used during an AoO (footnote pg 141 PHB) And I would say that trying to grapple and hold a greatsword at the same time is a good way to either drop the great sword or get yourself cut.

Evilhalfling,

Sorry, things got *way* too crazy today and I just hopped out of bed to come and post this because I didn't want to hold things up - I didn't realize that grappling said you had to be unarmed to do it. Grim definately does not want to drop his sword into the water! I kind of viewed it as him like bear-hugging the dragon (or it's leg or something) and just holding on and squeezing so that it didnt' take off into the air. Is it possible that Grim could take a small penalty to ensure that he doesn't drop his sword? I should have time to write an IC post late tomorrow night, but if you want to go ahead and make the IC post before then to keep things moving, feel free. I think Grim's grapple is +15 (+7 str, +4 bab, +4 size).

ok.. bed time. zzzzzzzzzzz

 

[Evilhalfling]

erm hello?
anyone want to announce and action for round seven?
I can run most of the round on previously announced actions -
waiting for Aphram especially, as Grim Lareth, Kylya, Hond and Velsouvous have all given me an idea of what they do next. Ill post the round after Grim, if no one has any changes.

 

[Isida Kep'Tukari]

Pretty much Lalreth is going to shoot once the dragon goes up in the air.

 

[Super Girl]

Kylala is pretty much stuck until the dragon gets closer, so she'll continue to ready a touch attack at the dragon if he comes close enough to attack.

 

[RedSwan78]

ok, posted. This should be interesting, because if it works, it'll be the first time I've ever had a character grapple.. lol! (I've done bullrushing, disarming and tripping before, but never grappling.. hehe)

 

[RedSwan78]

Ah well.. at least I tried! lol!

Just got a question about the ship now, now high is the side railing off the ocean surface? With Grim being 12foot tall, could he just reach up and grab ahold of the side and pull himself up into the boat? (climb check?) Just wondering what kind of options Grim has here with his height and the height of the ship. Is it possible to attack the dragon if he steps closer to the ship? Could he attempt another grapple by doing so? If not from where he is standing, can he "climb" up the side of the ship and grapple the dragon from there?

Damn, I forgot to mention in my last post, but can grim see how injured the dragon looks?

 

[Evilhalfling]

Redswan - The dragon is looking pretty bad, and it is out of reach of attacks from the water,
Im going with a 15' height on the boat.
You should be able to climb into the boat, but you will need a clear space to climb into, it will take you a full round action to make the climb (unless you try a quick climb (-5) If your desperate you might be able to grab the Dragon from halfway up, but he will have cover against you, and a miss will send you falling off the boat.