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5E Drawmij's Instant Summons: Am I Missing Something?

Dausuul

Legend
So, was looking at Drawmij's instant summons yesterday, and I found myself wondering the same thing I've wondered in every edition where this spell showed up:

Why on earth would you cast this spell?

I mean, I can see a number of uses for being able to prepare and summon an item to hand, and it's a ritual, so it doesn't cost spell slots... but it costs 1,000 gp per casting! I can't imagine any use that would justify such expenditures. What am I missing? Why is this spell worth the price tag?
 

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steeldragons

Steeliest of the dragons
Leave your Staff/Sword/Shield/Cloak of Ultimate Power at home, or secured somewhere, and summon it up when/if you're really in a bind/need it?

Food/drink that you've prepared-with the spell- but left somewhere so you don't have to carry it? Summon it up when you get hungry...and have a magnificent wealth of disposable 1,000gp sapphires?

The 10 lb. limit does seem to limit it...a lot.

I don't, honestly,really know.
 

Dausuul

Legend
Maybe it's for liches. You secure your phylactery in a heavily guarded fortress on a distant plane. Then you set up alarms so that you're warned if the innermost vault is about to be penetrated. When the alarms go off, you trigger Drawmij's instant summons and yank the phylactery out of danger. Secure it in your backup vault, then head for the fortress to deal with the intruders.

That's about all I got.
 

steeldragons

Steeliest of the dragons
That's actually pretty awesome, for "all you got." Hahaha. I'm definitely going to be borrowing that.

But, to the original question, "No. You're not really missing anything." I've just gone over the entry. There's really very specific and/or limited reasons I can imagine any pc would ever need or want to waste a 6th level slot to cast this.

Use as a ritual...*shrug* I guess. But you have to prepare something for it to work in the first place...so the whole thing is kinda always a ritual. Casting it as a ritual would just prepare the item for "instant summoning" [you know, as opposed to all of those spells that involve delayed summonings] anyway.

So, I guess as a ritual, if you're dungeon delving and you ritual-cast this on some [10lb or less] treasure...you could just "bring it to you" when you got home?

Surreptitious theft? Touch a holy relic or king's sceptre or something of that nature while you happen to be at the temple/palace/court...and get the casting off without being busted...then bring it to you when you get back to your own kingdom/temple/tower.
 

thalmin

Adventurer
Cast it on your primary Spellbook. Carry a traveling Spellbook. If your traveling spellbook is destroyed or stolen, you can summon your real one from your security vault.
 

ZombieRoboNinja

First Post
I think the real question is, why would a high-level wizard in possession of a powerful artifact NOT use this spell to keep it from getting stolen?
 

Shayuri

First Post
But in that case, why doesn't the wizard just carry the artifact around with them? I guess you could put it on the artifact or whatever, and also carry it around with you...and when it gets stolen by shadows in the night you can just whisk it back to yourself.

So it's 1000gp for what amounts to a really good theft insurance policy?
 

raleel

First Post
You could have your familiar do the touching. "I was never even close to it!"

note, it does not say the sapphire is destroyed as most spell components are. So.. could you reuse a sapphire after you Mended it?

edit: also, might be handy with Leomund's secret chest. A chest of 1000gp gems is going to be a lot 10# items :) Just pull it back every now and then, recast, and pop the chest back out. emergency backup!
 
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Joe Liker

First Post
This spell is nearly a carbon copy of its 1e version. Even back then, the uses were extremely situational and limited. In the cases mentioned upthread, however, it's indispensable. My feeling is that it's way better for NPCs than PCs.

note, it does not say the sapphire is destroyed as most spell components are. So.. could you reuse a sapphire after you Mended it?
Away from book, but I don't think mending works on items above a certain gp value.
 

raleel

First Post
This spell is nearly a carbon copy of its 1e version. Even back then, the uses were extremely situational and limited. In the cases mentioned upthread, however, it's indispensable. My feeling is that it's way better for NPCs than PCs.


Away from book, but I don't think mending works on items above a certain gp value.
No GP limit on mending anymore. there is precedent for casting multiple mends to fix items now. might take you a while, but I think you can get it back!
 

Dausuul

Legend
Hmm, okay. Theft insurance makes sense. It's an extremely narrow niche, but at least I can see its value within that niche.

You could have your familiar do the touching. "I was never even close to it!"

note, it does not say the sapphire is destroyed as most spell components are. So.. could you reuse a sapphire after you Mended it?
It doesn't say it's destroyed, but I think that's the intent of the bit where you crush the sapphire. (Presumably the magic renders the sapphire crushable... I always wondered how you were supposed to just casually crush a gem in your fist. It's a rock, not a freakin' eggshell.) If the sapphire is reusable, the spell gets a lot better.
 

Antz7766

First Post
Hmm, okay. Theft insurance makes sense. It's an extremely narrow niche, but at least I can see its value within that niche.
It's only partial insurance right? Since the second part of the spell says "If another creature is holding or carrying the item, crushing the sapphire doesn't transport the item to you, but instead you learn who the creature possessing the object is and roughly where that creature is located at that moment."

You'll still have to find the guy (if he's near by, might be easy, but if he's far away when you crushed the sapphire, chances are he's no longer there when you reached that location), and then get the item back somehow...

Edit: Typo
 

raleel

First Post
Hmm, okay. Theft insurance makes sense. It's an extremely narrow niche, but at least I can see its value within that niche.


It doesn't say it's destroyed, but I think that's the intent of the bit where you crush the sapphire. (Presumably the magic renders the sapphire crushable... I always wondered how you were supposed to just casually crush a gem in your fist. It's a rock, not a freakin' eggshell.) If the sapphire is reusable, the spell gets a lot better.
I don't disagree, particularly on the crushing part. However! Unless 1k gems are quite common, or magic items are very hard to come by, I'm going with this cheese, because this is some Limburger if not!

Putting it in the LSC is good insurance against it getting purloined by someone. You could even have a whole chest with labelled pouches and little shelves and reequip your entire party if they got captured by Demogorgon or something. Just make sure the LSC mini gets well hidden
 

lkj

Adventurer
Didn't I see somewhere that spell components aren't consumed unless the spell says so? Could be remembering that wrong, but it's worth looking up.

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Eejit

First Post
It's for doing the handoff in kidnapping cases. Wait till you see the hostage is alive and well before summoning the payment.
 


Gadget

Adventurer
Yes, the spell does seem rather niche, especially for a precious 6th level spell. I realize that it can be used as a ritual, but it still seems like they could have taken a good long look at spells and re-adjusted their level and effects, rather than just carry them forward. I know they did this to Teleport, they should have done it to more spells as well.

One use is to pay the ransom for the "princess" then go home and summon the ransom back once everyone is out of harms way.
 


lkj

Adventurer
Though, to second guess myself, you guys have a point that 'crushing the sapphire' might be what they mean by destroy. My apologies for missing that bit.

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I always preferred the version of the spell from an old Dragon April fools issue. The spell, summons the mage, Drawmij, to your current location. Seems much handier to pull a wizard out of your hat than a 10 lb. object.
 

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