Druid Wild Shape

[DracoSuave]

Durr. That's what I get for not reading.

The answer is you don't stay in beast form if you want to make basic attacks today. It's not your primary class, so don't expect to be milking its shtick the way a primary druid do.

 

[robsenworldaccount]

Perhaps thats just it

If you want to MC druid you need to take the basic attack beast power in order to make a basic attack.

Though it does seem kinda a screw but meh

 

[Danceofmasks]

Well, what you could do, is if you have quick wild shape ...
You can shift for the price of 2 free actions.
And repeat.

Err ... I think this wild shape business has some issues with insufficient playtesting.

 

[CubeKnight]

Well, what you could do, is if you have quick wild shape ...
You can shift for the price of 2 free actions.
And repeat.

Err ... I think this wild shape business has some issues with insufficient playtesting.

IIRC, you're limited to Wild Shaping 1/round, no matter how many actions you have left.

 

[Regicide]

Well, what you could do, is if you have quick wild shape ...
You can shift for the price of 2 free actions.
And repeat.

Err ... I think this wild shape business has some issues with insufficient playtesting.

You know, even without the quick wild shape feat, wildshape seems pretty meaningless. You just pop in and out based on what power you want to use that round and it doesn't have any real consequences. Stats, size, everything stay the same... so... why... I'd have to say it's one of the more dissapointing things about PHB2.

 

[ArmoredSaint]

I think it's weird that the attacks of most animals in the Monster Manual target AC, while those of the Druid wildshaped into the same animal target Reflex...

 

[Akaiku]

You know, even without the quick wild shape feat, wildshape seems pretty meaningless. You just pop in and out based on what power you want to use that round and it doesn't have any real consequences. Stats, size, everything stay the same... so... why... I'd have to say it's one of the more disappointing things about PHB2.

There are a few feats that give you bonuses whilst wild shaped, so it's not invariably exactly the same.

But, to answer the OP, if you are a multiclass druid and use up your attacks, you are now completely incapable of causing any harm to a foe unless you shift back, sustain a damaging effect or are a beastmaster ranger. (commanding your pet to attack isn't an attack from you)

It makes me sad. That, and, as near as I can tell, if you are a shaman multi druid, it's always better to take the non-beast form powers... shaman do more damage and often have better effects with their striker-emulating powers, plus they are extreme range instead of melee.

 

[Beckett]

I think it's weird that the attacks of most animals in the Monster Manual target AC, while those of the Druid wildshaped into the same animal target Reflex...

PCs and monsters work differently. In this case, these are PC powers that aren't weapon based; without the proficiency bonus, the usual case is to target a defense other than AC.

 

[lukelightning]

You're missing another benefit: After you defeat an enemy you wildshape into a bear and /dance on his corpse, increasing his humiliation.

 

[srn]

Reading PHB2 again today, under druid it says you can't use weapon or wondrous item properties or powers in wild shape form, but _can_ use implement and worn item powers and properties (page 83).

Under Beast Form on page 219 it says you can use a beast form power only while in beast form. On page 83 under "Wild Shape" it says "many druid powers have the beast form keyword and therefore can be used only while you are in beast form".

Nowhere (I can find) does it say you can use only Beast Form powers while in beast form, and the fact it explicitly rules out some powers implies that in general everything is allowed (the exception proving the rule and all).

So, I think a staff-wielding druid can basically stay in beast form all the time.

A staff-wielding MC druid can't use weapon powers, but if they were a wizard, for example, they could still use implement powers.