Druids, spell trigger/completion items, and vows

[Hypersmurf]

A druid who breaks armor/weaponry vows is "unable to use magical abilities for 24 hours".

Does this include activating wands or scrolls?

-Hyp.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

A druid who breaks armor/weaponry vows is "unable to use magical abilities for 24 hours".

Does this include activating wands or scrolls?

-Hyp.

Don't think so: all you need for those is having the stuff on the class list, and that's still true.

 

[Cyraneth]

IMO, yes. The activation of both scrolls, staves, and wands requires not only knowledge of magic (which kinda is more like Knowledge [arcana]), but also the ability to manipulate it (which you or the PHB referred to as "magical abilities").

Just my 2 cents.

- Cyraneth

 

[Hypersmurf]

A Paladin or Ranger can activate a wand even before they have a caster level...

-Hyp.

 

[Cyraneth]

Really? Where does it say that? I mean, I'm not doubting you. I just want to be able to refer to something if another player or my DM should ask...

- Cyraneth

 

[shilsen]

Really? Where does it say that? I mean, I'm not doubting you. I just want to be able to refer to something if another player or my DM should ask...

- Cyraneth

DMG pg.175, under "Using Items" (see the 'Spell Trigger' section).

 

[Cyraneth]

DMG pg.175, under "Using Items" (see the 'Spell Trigger' section).

I don't have my books with me right now, but doesn't that mean an ex-paladin can still use scrolls, wands, etc.? He can't cast spells, but they're still on his spell list, just as with a low-level paladin...

- Cyraneth

 

[Li Shenron]

Re: Re: Druids, spell trigger/completion items, and vows

Don't think so: all you need for those is having the stuff on the class list, and that's still true.

I am not sure of this. I think he doesn't have a spell list anymore if he becomes ex-Druid, temporarily if he violates the oaths.