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Dune

Nyarlathotep said:
Wow... am I the only one who thought the best book of the series was God-Emperor?
Not the best in my opinion, but I still really like God Emperor. My favorite is definatly the first, though I really liked Messiah, Children, and God Emperor. Heretics and Chapterhouse are definatly weird...but they're interesting enough and I still do like them a lot. :)
 

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You know, periodically, I go looking on e-bay for that Dune RPG. It's almost impossible to find, and when it's there it costs a fortune. Ah well, I'll have to settle for my Avalon Hill/Descartes French version of the strategy game.
 

Remus Lupin said:
You know, periodically, I go looking on e-bay for that Dune RPG. It's almost impossible to find, and when it's there it costs a fortune.

The original release of the Dune RPG by LUG was at the first GenCon I went to. I saw it and thought, "Wow, that's neat. I've probably spent too much already, though. I'll just pick it up later." I'd love to go back in time and buy a dozen or so copies...
 

I am a person with (as usual) an odd take on this question. I think Dune is one of the best badly written books going. The ideas are fantastic, but the style is horrible -- often turgid prose, many of the author's major points glossed over, wildly shifting PoV, etc.

Herbert, at his death, was also one of the most bitter writers in the world. According to an interview with him just before the Lynch/DeLaurentis film (and it is important to remember these two wildly divergent people were involved in the project), the film was horrible and all films made of it would be horrible. To paraphrase him, Dune was about one thing and one thing only: fanaticism, in any form, is wrong. Thus, according to Herbert, Paul Atredies begins the book as a Good person (working against the fanaticism of the empire and the Harkonnens), but ends the book as a Bad person (leading his Fremen on a new jihad across the universe). Herbert was upset that his fans didn't see that Paul had turned Evil, so he wrote the very short sequel to underline the point. The fans ate it up and still loved Paul. Herbert was appalled and felt that, for his bank account, he might as well keep writing, but he no longer loved the books and he was upset that no one read any of his other books. In his own words, "My fans don't give a damn about quality. I could write Garbage Scow of Dune and it would be a New York Time's best seller."

**ouch**

So I have a very odd feeling about Dune. I have read it twice. I think many of the ideas are good, but, like I said, I don't think the book is very well written. That and I feel sorry for the bitter man who wanted to write one thing and ended up with an entirely different fanbase.
 

Wombat said:
Herbert, at his death, was also one of the most bitter writers in the world. According to an interview with him just before the Lynch/DeLaurentis film (and it is important to remember these two wildly divergent people were involved in the project), the film was horrible and all films made of it would be horrible.

Wow. Considering that he's widely known to have said things very different from that in print and in interviews after the film's release, I'd love to hear about your source.
 

Remus Lupin said:
You know, periodically, I go looking on e-bay for that Dune RPG. It's almost impossible to find, and when it's there it costs a fortune. Ah well, I'll have to settle for my Avalon Hill/Descartes French version of the strategy game.

Muahahaha... :D

I got lucky & picked up a copy at a used book store for half of the retail price (which worked out to $17.50+ tax).

I'm not a huge fan of the ICON system & the book isn't nearly detail/background oriented enough to be a great Dune resource for other systems.

Still, it is pretty enough...lol

FWIW The footnote at the bottom of the Credits page is quite depressing...

This limited collector's edition of the DUNE RPG features Last Unicorn Games' ICON System and includes everything needed to play countless adventures in Frank Herbert's Dune universe. Future editions of the DUNE RPG will employ the d20 System, and conversion notes will be available online at www.wizards.com.

*sigh* Of course that never happened....
 
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Assenpfeffer said:
SciFi has indeed shown the expanded TV Dune from time to time. I have it on tape from when it was first aired, and I think it's a mixed bag. ASome of the added scenes are indeed very good, add to the film, and really should have been in the theatrical cut. Others are poorly done, and you can easily see why they didn't make it into the film in the first place.
Yeah, the expanded edition is pretty sketchy - if I recall correctly, some of the scenes they chucked back in weren't even totally finished, such as some of the Fremen not having the blue-on-blue eye effect. Apparently, Lynch was pretty displeased with this half-assed extended version, since the director is listed as one "Alan Smithee".
 

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