Duskblade with a spellbook

[Omegaxicor]

So, since we've ruled out a Duskblade using a wizard's spellbook, are you or your player interested in seeking other methods of expanding his spell knowledge? Because that's a seperate issue, and the Duskblade Handbook has good tips.

That is a good guide I will show him that, I think he just wanted the Wizards ability to learn any spell, but I was curious if it would work

Thanks for the help

EDIT:

What I mean Omegaxicor is that he can expand his list in which he chooses to memorize for his spells known. While it doesn't say explicitly the Duskblade is a spontaneous caster of sorts because it says you need not prepare spells. It also states you memorize spells and can choose to forget some for others at each level, like a sorcerer. Unlike a sorcerer or wizard a Duskblade has limited list of class spells to derive his spells known from. A successful deciphering of the spellbook would expand that list not his actual spells known.

I don't know why that didn't makes sense the first time, looking back over it I understand what you mean, it might still be useful but I agree with StreamOfTheSky it would be over powered

 

[Greenfield]

A spellbook can be incredibly useful for a Duskblade.

He can use it as an impromptu shield or improvized weapon, he can use it to cover his face if he needs to get some sleep in a lit area, and if it's the right size it might even keep that table from wobbling.

But he could have a kazillion ranks in Use Magic Device and it wouldn't let him cast spells from it. Why? Because it isn't a Magic Device.

He *can* use it to add spells to his known list, if he's using it as a reference or inspiration when he gains a level. But it's the level advance that makes him capable of knowing more magic, not the book.

 

[irdeggman]

In order to gain more spells allowed than the number of spells known (see PHB 2 pg 19 for # of spells known by a duskblade) the character must take the feat Extra Spell (Complete Arcane pg 79-80).

A duskblade can choose his spell's known from the list on pg 24 of the PHB II (with additions as new books add spells to the class spell list).

Deciphering a spell book will not help a duskblade know any new spells.

Using the research new spells rules in the PHB he may be able to research a spell not normally on his spell list and add it to his spell's known but must use one of his available spell's known slots to add it - spontaneous casters do not gain extra spells known via research.

 

[W4rlock]

Just to throw this into the pile, but in my heavily-modded 3.5 game, I use all-spontaneous casters (basically including scrapping and rewriting the cleric, druid, and wizard) but I also allow a Spellbook feat, that allows a spontaenous caster to swap up to 2 spells per spell level out of a wizard-style collected spellbook of the appropriate type (arcane/divine/primal), with an hour's morning prep. These spells *replace* other spells known for that day, the next time they recover their spells, so unless they do the prep again, they still have the default list.

I haven't really played with the duskblade too much, but I wouldn't see any harm in allowing him to swap a spell on a temporary basis, as long as it's a 1-for-1 trade. (having to spend a feat for it helps offset the boost.) Maybe specify that if the spell is wiz/sorc rather than duskblade, they take it at 1 level higher.

 

[Shin Okada]

I haven't really played with the duskblade too much, but I wouldn't see any harm in allowing him to swap a spell on a temporary basis, as long as it's a 1-for-1 trade. (having to spend a feat for it helps offset the boost.) Maybe specify that if the spell is wiz/sorc rather than duskblade, they take it at 1 level lower.

You mean, allowing a Duskblade to cast a level X Sor/Wiz spell as level X-1 spell?

At lower level, it may simply make a Duskblade a stronger caster than a Wizard or Sorcerer. For example, at level 5, a Sorcerer cannot yet cast a Fireball. A Wizard start to cast a 3rd-level spell once per day (plus some extra). At the same level, A Duskblade has two 2nd-level slots (plus some extra).

Also, I wonder if allowing a Duskblade to cast Sivering Touch as a 2nd-level spell is such a good idea....

 

[W4rlock]

You mean, allowing a Duskblade to cast a level X Sor/Wiz spell as level X-1 spell?

At lower level, it may simply make a Duskblade a stronger caster than a Wizard or Sorcerer. For example, at level 5, a Sorcerer cannot yet cast a Fireball. A Wizard start to cast a 3rd-level spell once per day (plus some extra). At the same level, A Duskblade has two 2nd-level slots (plus some extra).

Also, I wonder if allowing a Duskblade to cast Sivering Touch as a 2nd-level spell is such a good idea....

No, no, other way around. The 5th level duskblade is just getting Magic Missile, as a 2nd level Duskblade spell. He wouldn't get Fireball until 13th level, as a 4th lvl spell.

 

[Shin Okada]

No, no, other way around. The 5th level duskblade is just getting Magic Missile, as a 2nd level Duskblade spell. He wouldn't get Fireball until 13th level, as a 4th lvl spell.

Ah I see.

Still if I were a DM, I will only allow it case by case, after carefully inspecting each spells. Duskblade can channel any spell he knows, and quick cast any spell he knows certain times per day.