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E-Version? ANYONE FROM WOTC TO COMMENT?

Kae'Yoss

First Post
During the seminar, there was something about the "E-Version" of the books you can activate with that code.

Is that the full book in electronic form (PDF or something like that?)
 

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MatthewJHanson

Registered Ninja
Publisher
My impression is that you get ebook, plus it let's the various tools know that you own the book.

For example once you let the system know you own a book, the character creator will add feats from the book to the list of those that you can select.

(This is all speculation)
 

I'm A Banana

Potassium-Rich
Rumors have it that there will be a small fee attached to the activation of the book, too (perhaps Free For Members?), and that you will need to be logged in to see the book.

Which means, for me, that if you play D&D in a room without an internet connection, you've gotta lug your library around still.

Which, IMO, is less awesome than it should be.
 


Atlatl Jones

Explorer
Kamikaze Midget said:
Rumors have it that there will be a small fee attached to the activation of the book, too (perhaps Free For Members?), and that you will need to be logged in to see the book.
They said that they're still exploring options about that. Possibly it'll be an online only book, or a downloadable drm'd book.
 

I'm A Banana

Potassium-Rich
Possibly it'll be an online only book, or a downloadable drm'd book.

So either I have to be online to see it, or I can't take it on a portable drive.

Both options are far less awesome than they should be.

I'd be okay with watermarking.
 

Kamikaze Midget said:
So either I have to be online to see it, or I can't take it on a portable drive.

Both options are far less awesome than they should be.

I'd be okay with watermarking.
I have to imagine it'll be possible to copy and paste into a Word document, no matter what.
 

Delta

First Post
Kae'Yoss said:
During the seminar, there was something about the "E-Version" of the books you can activate with that code.

Is that the full book in electronic form (PDF or something like that?)

Similar to what I said in another thread -- as a college professor I've been dealing with this for a few years now. Many college textbooks come with a registration code for online supplement utilities these days, which is very comparable to the means & motivations for the Digital Initiative. For example: http://www.coursecompass.com/

Using Course Compass as an example, once you buy the book & log on, each little 4-page section of the book or so is available as a separate PDF, with links to online exercises, example videos, etc. You can download those if you like.

Don't know if WOTC will follow that precisely, but it's probably a good starting guess.
 

Jhaelen

First Post
Whizbang Dustyboots said:
I have to imagine it'll be possible to copy and paste into a Word document, no matter what.
Doubtful. If that was possible, a Word version of the complete book would be available for free about 5 minutes after the first user logged in.
 

ThirdWizard

First Post
Jhaelen said:
Doubtful. If that was possible, a Word version of the complete book would be available for free about 5 minutes after the first user logged in.

I betcha I could find a downloadable pdf of any D&D 3e book published in about 5 minutes, and that's not going to change for 4e no matter what WotC does. Not to endorse such things, but its not like copy/pasting is going to change anything.
 


Alnag

First Post
Jhaelen said:
Doubtful. If that was possible, a Word version of the complete book would be available for free about 5 minutes after the first user logged in.

With current level of technology you can not protect anything absolutely. To say the very least, once you have an e-version of a book, you can make a screenshot of it, run it through OCR software and have the book in... well with some software very quickly.

The way to fight a piracy is not to make artifical barriers, they will just discourage honest people. That is lesson which music industry is learning right now. The way is too find new balance in offer and demand, where piracy is not productive. In certain amounts producing e-books is so cheap that free alternative is not an alternative at all.

And for the record. I think, watermarked PDF is fair to both customer and producer. DRM and other limitations are not.
 


Kae'Yoss

First Post
Alnag said:
With current level of technology you can not protect anything absolutely. To say the very least, once you have an e-version of a book, you can make a screenshot of it, run it through OCR software and have the book in... well with some software very quickly.

And, for that matter, the same can be done with books. And has been done.

The way to fight a piracy is not to make artifical barriers, they will just discourage honest people. That is lesson which music industry is learning right now. The way is too find new balance in offer and demand, where piracy is not productive. In certain amounts producing e-books is so cheap that free alternative is not an alternative at all.

I wouldn't say that paying nothing for something can be beaten. There's always those who will pay as little as possible, no matter whether the goods are stolen or illegaly copied.

Short of giving away your wares, you won't be able to come up with anything to win them over.


But they're not the majority. I think that lots of profit can be made if the prices are reasonable, the contents aren't meagre, and people don't have to jump thorugh hoops to use what they've bought.

If the price for those electronic versions will be reasonable (taking into account that you already bought the book itself) and the book itself usable without too much of a hassle, I think many people will make use of them, and will pay for them. Some will abuse the lack of security tighter than that of a bank vault, but they'd attempt to break into the vault, anyway.
 

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