Eadric et. al. (The Paladin and his Friends).

[Someone]

I have a feeling that Eadric just outright full attacked him. If you think about it, with his epic smiting on multiple probably power-criticalled attacks, he could deal well over 200 damage. The guy he attacked was a diplomat type it sounded like, so he probably didn't have many hitpoints (in the grand scheme of things; 200 hitpoints really is a lot heh). If I remember, Sonneillon only had around 200ish and I believe so did Titivilius.

That doesn´t change the fact that Mostin had them trapped in his cellar and Eadric killed one in one round. Seriously, if a guy tells you that in his game his group did that, your munchking alarms would start screaming. It takes a SepII to change "Munchkin!" into "Awesome!"

 

[Moleculo]

That doesn´t change the fact that Mostin had them trapped in his cellar and Eadric killed one in one round. Seriously, if a guy tells you that in his game his group did that, your munchking alarms would start screaming. It takes a SepII to change "Munchking!" into "Awesome!"

That doesn't set off my alarm just becuase its epic.

Half Celestial lets you smite, paladin lets you smite at least five times, the epic feat that lets you smite doubles your smiting damage, eadric has the strength domain power, and was probably attacking a CR lower than him. Maybe a 40ish strength.

first attack would be atleast +40 from smite, then the other four would be at +20, and each attack would have around +15 strength, 1d10+10ish from lukarn for around 5 times(22+15+10+5.5) +22 = 284 damage. Titivilius only had around 200ish hitpoints, and i can't imaging the other guy having much more. Its epic and that is hardly maximized. I bet he is able to do a whole lot more damage, considering that we were only assuming 22 hitdie with celestial template from years ago. He's probably a much higher level now...

 

[grodog]

Another interesting question to consider: is Furcas permanently slain, or, since he was killed in the Prime, was it merely his corporeal form that was destroyed?

 

[Baron Opal]

IIRC, Furcas was called, not summoned, so he is permanently dead. Although, if I was feeling particularly devious, I might have Mostin use a Wish to bring him back after Titivilious and the Murmur were released, bound, whatever. Used witin an hour of the entity's demise, cast upon the (mostly) whole corpse... Might work. And you would have an interesting spy.

 

[Someone]

That doesn't set off my alarm just becuase its epic.

Half Celestial lets you smite, paladin lets you smite at least five times, the epic feat that lets you smite doubles your smiting damage, eadric has the strength domain power, and was probably attacking a CR lower than him. Maybe a 40ish strength.

first attack would be atleast +40 from smite, then the other four would be at +20, and each attack would have around +15 strength, 1d10+10ish from lukarn for around 5 times(22+15+10+5.5) +22 = 284 damage. Titivilius only had around 200ish hitpoints, and i can't imaging the other guy having much more. Its epic and that is hardly maximized. I bet he is able to do a whole lot more damage, considering that we were only assuming 22 hitdie with celestial template from years ago. He's probably a much higher level now...

That´s assuming the devil just keeps there twiddling his taloned thumbs. He may be trapped but it´s still able to cast spells on himself.

Anyway, that´s not what I was discussing. Forget about Eadric and company for a moment. Suppose you´re reading the boards and some bloke posts "the other day out party´s wizard trapped three infernal magnates and I killed one of them in one round, without help, because you know, I´m my god´s best buddy and can deal ludicrous amounts of damage with my intelligent holy sword."

Seriously, what would you think? I imagine a lot of things, starting from "the epic level handbook was a error". What I was saying in my last post is that, after reading Sep II these years we start thinking "Awesome!" instead of "Yeah, whatever."

 

[the Jester]

Suppose you´re reading the boards and some bloke posts "the other day out party´s wizard trapped three infernal magnates and I killed one of them in one round, without help, because you know, I´m my god´s best buddy and can deal ludicrous amounts of damage with my intelligent holy sword."

Seriously, what would you think? I imagine a lot of things, starting from "the epic level handbook was a error". What I was saying in my last post is that, after reading Sep II these years we start thinking "Awesome!" instead of "Yeah, whatever."

Yeah, he's proven himself, that's for sure.

Being a dm of an epic campaign myself, I can relate- those pcs imc can pretty much shake the multiverse. They range from 20th-26th levels and they've killed Asmodeus on his home plane and restored Hell to Lucifer. Yikes! (Though they did team up with another epic group of pcs after being maneuvered into a battle with them first.) That's the kind of thing that, when I hear someone else say it, makes me go "mm-hmm, whatever you say, Monty."

Yet Sep, Piratecat, Sagiro, etc. tell tales so well- they weave such a compelling narrative- that it doesn't occur to me to doubt whether the pcs' victories are 'earned'.

I think a big part of this, actually, is the fact that we've watched them 'grow up' from lower levels. This is part of what made me comfortable with the epic cross-over/kill Asmodeus game I ran- those pcs worked their way up from 1st level (or thereabouts), and they'd been moving towards that confrontation for a while.

It's hard to take that kind of brag seriously if you haven't seen the background.

 

[Moleculo]

Suppose you´re reading the boards and some bloke posts "the other day out party´s wizard trapped three infernal magnates and I killed one of them in one round, without help, because you know, I´m my god´s best buddy and can deal ludicrous amounts of damage with my intelligent holy sword."

Seriously, what would you think? I imagine a lot of things, starting from "the epic level handbook was a error". What I was saying in my last post is that, after reading Sep II these years we start thinking "Awesome!" instead of "Yeah, whatever."

You can't ignore context you know. I mean if someone just posted that, it would sound like they were bragging and so of course you would ignore it and say whatever. But if its in a story hour and it happens, and you know so much about the PCs then yeah of course you're going to react that way.

 

[grodog]

Le bump. Hey Sep, what's the scoop on how Eadric killed off Furcas? How about some updated stats, please? You still planning to share more epic thoughts sometime, too?

 

[Rackhir]

Bump.

 

[Moleculo]

just reading up on Chieromancer's sidhe class progression. Reminded me of the thread