Eberron Campaign Setting now pdf

Glyfair said:
It's those who want the product in electronic format instead of print and are willing to pay the MSRP for it.

I suppose there are those who do not have access to a gaming or bookstore that readily stocks WotC products, so that sort of makes sense. But, if it were me, even with the lack of available hardcovers to get my hands on, I would expect some sort of price discount considering I would have to supply the ink and paper for any sort of portability.
 

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Edgewood said:
I suppose there are those who do not have access to a gaming or bookstore that readily stocks WotC products, so that sort of makes sense.

That's one group I've heard that like the option (especially overseas customers). The other group consists of those who want all their gaming books in electronic format. There are some willing to pay MSRP to get that. Their other option would be to buy print and scan them themselves. Given the effort that takes, the cost is worth it.
 

Glyfair said:
The other group consists of those who want all their gaming books in electronic format. There are some willing to pay MSRP to get that.

I find that surprising (not doubting you, just a bit surprised) that some one would be willing to pay MSRP for a PDF the same as they would for a hardcover. Since WotC in particular is utilizing a system (RPGNow) who maintains their pdf's (are they on sale elsewhere on line?) , where there is already a built in market there is vitually no cost to them to set up these PDFs, aside from the initial set up for creating the print versions to begin with, but those prices were set up to include the production of the book. Very interesting.
 

Edgewood said:
I find that surprising (not doubting you, just a bit surprised) that some one would be willing to pay MSRP for a PDF the same as they would for a hardcover. Since WotC in particular is utilizing a system (RPGNow) who maintains their pdf's (are they on sale elsewhere on line?) , where there is already a built in market there is vitually no cost to them to set up these PDFs, aside from the initial set up for creating the print versions to begin with, but those prices were set up to include the production of the book. Very interesting.

Many people consider whether the product is worth the cost for them, rather than an assumed costs in production (which is good, since I've seen a lot of "commonsense" assumptions in this area that were completely wrong). To them they ask themselves is the Eberron Campaign Setting worth $39.95 to them. If it is, they purchase it in the format they want. If they find it cheaper, all the better. If they don't, it's still worth the price they paid for it to them.
 




Even so, they've had to deal with shipping costs already. At present, we're having a lot of very cheap D&D products due to the strength of the Aussie dollar against the greenback, but I can remember when that wasn't the case.

Dragon Magazine was the real bugbear with me - IIRC, it was double the cost in the US to get a subscription to Australia. (Add another 50-100% if you were just buying the mag from the gaming store). It also shipped much later.

At present, I can get D&D books at Mind Games in Melbourne for about the same cost as they cost in the US. There are times this isn't the case, in which case a pdf would be cheaper. (The Digital Initiative will likely be much, much cheaper for me than the magazines were, even if it maintains the old US price).

Mind you, the prices can be really strange. Regular paperback books are terribly expensive in Australia. A mass-market paperback fantasy novel goes for about aus$22-23 at present (about us$18-20)...

Cheers!
 

Given a choice between a .pdf and a print version at the same price, I'd go for the .pdf every time. Why? Ctrl-F; Ctrl-+ and ctrl--; Ctrl-C, alt-tab, Ctrl-V; an entire library on a stick the size of my pinkie; drop-dead-easy map prints and enlargements; easy markup and notes without permanently defacing the original. What do I give up moving from dead-tree to .pdf? The joy of carrying around 150 lbs of books, or having to run to the basement every time I realize that I didn't bring something I need; wear and tear every time something is used; oh, yeah, and never being able to find the particular phrase or rule or name I'm looking for, since indices are never as detailed as they should be. I've got a laptop and an iPaq, I can take my .pdfs wherever I need them.

I guess I'm torn; I'd go so far as to admit, I might even be willing to pay a premium for .pdf format, even though I know there's no conceivable reason for that to be the case.

Ooooo, I just remembered another reason I'd be perfectly willing to transition to electronic format exclusively. Paper cuts. I once bled on a copy of Ghost Tower of Inverness; my Toshiba has never hurt me like that. I guess you know who your friends are. ;)
 

Yalius said:
Given a choice between a .pdf and a print version at the same price, I'd go for the .pdf every time. Why? Ctrl-F; Ctrl-+ and ctrl--; Ctrl-C, alt-tab, Ctrl-V; an entire library on a stick the size of my pinkie;

And that stick is so easy to pass around the table, telling people to use the search function to look up that feat or spell :p

What do I give up moving from dead-tree to .pdf? The joy of carrying around 150 lbs of books, or having to run to the basement every time I realize that I didn't bring something I need; wear and tear every time something is used; oh, yeah, and never being able to find the particular phrase or rule or name I'm looking for, since indices are never as detailed as they should be.

Also, being able to read the stuff idly while lying in bed, or sitting on the Common Man's Throne. Those two things alone make pdf as sole medium unattractive.

I've got a laptop and an iPaq, I can take my .pdfs wherever I need them.

Well, I don't, and neither does every player in my group. And I won't buy a laptop just so I can play D&D without books (same goes for the other guys).

Ooooo, I just remembered another reason I'd be perfectly willing to transition to electronic format exclusively. Paper cuts. I once bled on a copy of Ghost Tower of Inverness; my Toshiba has never hurt me like that. I guess you know who your friends are. ;)

Just sit there with that laptop actually on top of your lap for a couple of hours, and then attempt to father a child :p

I'll take the paper cut every day of the week, thanks!
 

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