trentonjoe
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ECL of 1/2 dragon and 1/2 celestial?
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hammymchamham
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trentonjoe
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magnas_veritas
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I dunno. Is it a:
1) Human half-celestial half-dragon?;
2) A half-celestial dragon?; or
3) A half-dragon celestial?
I suspect you're asking about 1). Waving aside any doubts about the feasibility of such a creature*, I'd just add them together, which I believe would be a +6 based on DMG.
This includes adding together all the racial bonuses (+12 Str, +2 Dex, +6 Con, +4 Int, +4 Wis, +6 Cha), special attacks (spell-like abilities and breath weapon), +5 natural armor bonus to AC, low-light vision, darkvision to 60', all their immunities (acid, electricity, cold, disease, and one from a dragon, which better darn well be fire, plus a +4 Fort save vs. poison), the half-dragon's claw/claw/ bite and bigger hit die. That's a lot, and I can't imagine being able to convince the DM that it's anything less than MAYBE a +5 ECL, and probably +6.
For real fun, become celestial for the DR and SR, and arrange to get bitten by a weretiger and then get atoned. And, of course, since by this point you're the only one of your kind, it's possible you might wake up to find yourself a paragon. Sure, you'll never get XP again, and it's real expensive getting raised when you die, given that you'll have a lot fewer HD than the rest of the party, but it'll be fun! ;-) (And here's where access to one of the level-raising books would come in real handy...)
Though, be warned, if the DM hasn't thought of this already when you mention it, you'll start running into half-fiend half-dragons, who, for similar abilities, will have two more HD than you (since the two templates only add up to +4 CR).
* - The waving part of this will be...interesting, if you're looking to start play as a half-celestial half-dragon human. Perhaps you're the child of a Polymorphed ghaele eladrin and a polymorphed gold dragon, or you're the product of a Good Temple's secret breeding program to produce the Ultimate Paladin (tm). In play, either could be accomplished with a flexible enough DM and Strange Mysterious Rites.
Brad
1) Human half-celestial half-dragon?;
2) A half-celestial dragon?; or
3) A half-dragon celestial?
I suspect you're asking about 1). Waving aside any doubts about the feasibility of such a creature*, I'd just add them together, which I believe would be a +6 based on DMG.
This includes adding together all the racial bonuses (+12 Str, +2 Dex, +6 Con, +4 Int, +4 Wis, +6 Cha), special attacks (spell-like abilities and breath weapon), +5 natural armor bonus to AC, low-light vision, darkvision to 60', all their immunities (acid, electricity, cold, disease, and one from a dragon, which better darn well be fire, plus a +4 Fort save vs. poison), the half-dragon's claw/claw/ bite and bigger hit die. That's a lot, and I can't imagine being able to convince the DM that it's anything less than MAYBE a +5 ECL, and probably +6.
For real fun, become celestial for the DR and SR, and arrange to get bitten by a weretiger and then get atoned. And, of course, since by this point you're the only one of your kind, it's possible you might wake up to find yourself a paragon. Sure, you'll never get XP again, and it's real expensive getting raised when you die, given that you'll have a lot fewer HD than the rest of the party, but it'll be fun! ;-) (And here's where access to one of the level-raising books would come in real handy...)
Though, be warned, if the DM hasn't thought of this already when you mention it, you'll start running into half-fiend half-dragons, who, for similar abilities, will have two more HD than you (since the two templates only add up to +4 CR).
* - The waving part of this will be...interesting, if you're looking to start play as a half-celestial half-dragon human. Perhaps you're the child of a Polymorphed ghaele eladrin and a polymorphed gold dragon, or you're the product of a Good Temple's secret breeding program to produce the Ultimate Paladin (tm). In play, either could be accomplished with a flexible enough DM and Strange Mysterious Rites.
Brad
trentonjoe
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wowsers!
I was asking the easy question. Half human, 1/2 something else.
Here is another question for you. Would a half dwarf half dragon get both con bonuses? Do they stack? WOuld there stats get a total of +4?
I was asking the easy question. Half human, 1/2 something else.
Here is another question for you. Would a half dwarf half dragon get both con bonuses? Do they stack? WOuld there stats get a total of +4?
magnas_veritas
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My bad. That's the kind of question I'd ask; my tiefling is aiming for half-celestial humanhood. 
Judging from MM, template bonuses stack onto racial bonuses. The example half-celestial unicorn has the half-celestial attribute modifiers on top of the unicorn attributes. So, yes, the half-dragon dwarf would get a +4 to Con, and a net +0 to Charisma.
Brad
Judging from MM, template bonuses stack onto racial bonuses. The example half-celestial unicorn has the half-celestial attribute modifiers on top of the unicorn attributes. So, yes, the half-dragon dwarf would get a +4 to Con, and a net +0 to Charisma.
Brad
trentonjoe
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hmmmmm
Maybe we'll make a 1/2 celestial 1/2 svifberflin (or however you spell it) that would be neat!
Maybe we'll make a 1/2 celestial 1/2 svifberflin (or however you spell it) that would be neat!
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Hypersmurf
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Try for Half-Dragon (Black) Lernean Pyrohydra. (Hey, it's got an Int of 4... that's as good as a really thick half-orc!)
Get the cleric to Death Ward you, and you're immune to... well, practically all damage except Disintegrate.
Just watch out for Whirlwind Attack.
-Hyp.
Get the cleric to Death Ward you, and you're immune to... well, practically all damage except Disintegrate.
Just watch out for Whirlwind Attack.
-Hyp.
hammymchamham
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trentonjoe said:
That is so cool!!!! (I love svirfneblin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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