Edition wars need to stop.

[B.T.]

How on Earth is criticism of WotC "firing off shots"? It is a faceless company, not an individual or set of beliefs. It's a company. If I say, "WotC sucks," there is no reason to become offended.

 

[Fifth Element]

How on Earth is criticism of WotC "firing off shots"? It is a faceless company, not an individual or set of beliefs. It's a company. If I say, "WotC sucks," there is no reason to become offended.

It may be a company, but it is by no means faceless. Several devs post here, as does the brand manager for D&D.

 

[Nagol]

[Humour]

Since the Edition Wars began, I've had some questions:

What fronts have seen the most fighting? Forums mostly, also FLGSs

What are the crucial military objectives? And have any been destroyed? Scorched-earth total annihilation of the opposing side. Think second Punic war. Both sides can claim multiple fortresses; neither side has vulnerable targets.

Who are the major generals and heroes of the conflict? Each side knows who the heroes and villains are. I can't point them out, however due to forum rules.

Has new technology been introduced that has given one side an advantage over the other? Veiled invective and hyperbole has been sharpened to a degree unheard of since the last cataclysmic war.

Who are the neutrals? There are three types: those who occupy different territories (e.g. gamers using other systems), those bystanders caught in fire zone (neutral forum goers), and those aliens occupying alternate realities (non gamers).

Has any side been pushed to a wartime economy (rationing, hyperproduction, conscription, etc.)? Both sides have ramped up emo and angst production to unheard of levels that cannot be supported without massive sacrifice.

Has there ever been a Edition Cold War with threats of mutually assured destruction? Yes. This thread has an example: "The fractured D&D community has the potential to kill the hobby."

Most importantly: Who's winning? At this time it is impossible to say. Too much propaganda and too little factual reporting exists to properly determine how the sides are faring.

[/Humour]

 

[M.L. Martin]

No!

Let the Edition Wars rage! Let OD&D, 1E, 3E/Pathfinder and 4E fans strive against each other, giving no quarter, battling until all sides are exhausted, and the hobby lies fallow and scorched by a thousand battles.

Then shall Star Wars Saga Edition sweep down and conquer all, bringing forth a shining New Order of roleplaying.

"Once more the Sith shall rule the galaxy . . . and we shall have peace."--Darth Sidious, who used this same strategy to great effect a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.

 

[B.T.]

Saga Edition almost had it right.

 

[Charwoman Gene]

Saga Edition almost had it right.

No, it shredded the skills system, just like 4e and that was a horrible crime against gaming.

 

[B.T.]

No, it shredded the skills system, just like 4e and that was a horrible crime against gaming.

I'm up for discussing that. Would you care to start a new thread?

 

[M.L. Martin]

No, it shredded the skills system, just like 4e and that was a horrible crime against gaming.

It created a skill system that generally met the design goals--characters could generally keep up in appropriate challenge situations, but specialists still had a notable edge. It was designed for broadly competent heroes in high-adventure games, so it may not fit well with those schools of gaming that favor high levels of specialization and niche protection.

And I've run games and created characters with Rolemaster, so I can handle complex skill systems.

 

[Herremann the Wise]

How on Earth is criticism of WotC "firing off shots"? It is a faceless company, not an individual or set of beliefs. It's a company. If I say, "WotC sucks," there is no reason to become offended.

It may be a company, but it is by no means faceless. Several devs post here, as does the brand manager for D&D.

I agree with F.E. here.

If B.T., you say "WotC sucks/is a faceless company", while I'm not sensitive enough to be offended, it does kind of ruin your position on the whole "no trolling" thing. Compounding this is telling people that they shouldn't be offended which in its own way is as offensive as actually offending them.

As for the whole edition wars thing... the situation has markedly improved to the point where I think there are bigger issues to be fried. However, I appreciate your original sentiments and maybe you would have been wiser just to leave it at that.

Best Regards
Herremann the Wise

 

[Doug McCrae]

If I say, "WotC sucks," there is no reason to become offended.

Well, a lot of people round here are major fans of WotC and the products they've produced, either in the past or at present, so there is a reason. Even if that's not, in your opinion, a good reason to be offended, the fact is people will be and I think you know they will be. And isn't it trolling to say things you know will offend a lot of people?