Eight Large Uncommon Minis in Angelfire--what'll they be?


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JediSoth said:
How about an Uncommon Ogre? Ever notice how the most common/popular opponents are rare and the weird, hardly ever used stuff is common?

JediSoth

The problem is, of course, the competing needs of the minis-for-the-mini-game and minis-for-D&D crowds. As a minis-for-D&D guy I have to say that some of the choices for commons have been great, particularly the humanoids (orcs, goblins, kobolds), animals (wolves, bears, dire weasels, dire rats, dire badgers), and undead (skeletons and zombies- although I can't seem to pull any). On the other hand some of the common choices have really been niche monsters. What am I going to do with a bunch of ibixians, kruthiks, or myconids?

As a minis-for-D&D guy I'd love to see a focus on monsters out of the Monster Manual as commons or (in the case of large monsters) uncommons. Those are really the workhorses of most campaigns. We're being well served in terms of humanoids and animals, but wouldn't a lot of people get real use out of monsterous humanoids, vermin, outsiders, and undead (like common versions of the wight, wraith, specter, vampire, mummy and other baseline undead). Ask yourself how many times have you run encounters where you've needed a bunch of spiders or wraiths? Now how many times have you run encounters where you've needed a bunch of ibixians or myconids?

That said, I'm generally happy with the WotC minis and have been pleased by the consistent increase in quality of the sculpts.

Morrow
 

JediSoth said:
How about an Uncommon Ogre? Ever notice how the most common/popular opponents are rare and the weird, hardly ever used stuff is common?

Others have already pointed out that we got an uncommon ogre in Deathknell. I'll add to that by pointing out that it wasn't until Deathknell that you even got uncommon large minis. Only two of those in that set, and one was an ogre. The other a dire bear, which I'd say is a pretty common creature as well.

On the whole, I'm content with the sets. I think they need to go ahead and cover the rest of the critters in Minis Handbook, since it seems kinda dumb for the book to have been out for a couple of years now and still have big holes in their line.

I also think they need to figure ways to incorporate things like krakens and aboleths, minis game be damned.

I'd like to see the rest of the aspects represented. Then again, they probably would not be ideal for uncommons. Uncommons should be things you'll see more than one of, and I sure don't want to see multiple iron golems.

I would like to see a braxat (from MMII), an avolokia (also from MMII), a cloaker, and more slaads. Is there a marilith confirmed?
 

Originally Posted by DaveMage
I'm guessing we'll see a large uncommon water and/or air elemental.


Sammael said:
WotC designers are on record stating that they won't do those two elementals until they perfect the clear plastic molding techniques.


And considering that both minis sucked in both paint jobs AND posing!! :] In fact, the fire one kinda sucked as well, but nowhere near as bad as the water and air ones.
 

Felon said:
I'll add to that by pointing out that it wasn't until Deathknell that you even got uncommon large minis.

Actually Aberrations had the UC Destrachan.

I'd like to see a large uncommon spider (phase spider?), and a common medium centipede. I'm guessing Underdark may have these.
 

Honestly, I'd like to see some creatures that have been advanced and so are a larger size than normal. I know lots of things advance by class, but enough advance in other ways that having Large versions of some critters would be nice. We're all told, in the MM, that these are all average versions of things, and that there are these wonderful advancement rules for making tougher versions of things. So, I want to see some. Actually, I'd like to see loads of them.

Dave
 

I wouldn't mind an uncommon true dragon for a change. ;)

Seriously I'm guessing large skeleton or Zombie besides Minatour and/or Ogre.

Troll Skeleton perhaps?

Previews will probably be up later for Angelfire tomorrow/today (thursday)
 


Felon said:
Yoinks! I stand corrected. Why the hell didn't I get one? :)

i got over a dozen, they make nice 'wierd' mounts, got em cheap since the owner lost the stat cards..

though they do look like big-mouth butt suckers.

I want large COMMONS. like star wars yuzzems
 
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