Elf/Druid Question
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Mr Fidgit
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house rule the weapons and armor requirement or 'relax' the will of the god or goddess in question.Angelsboi said:
from the FRCS:
"Mielikki...has more lenient spiritual oaths than most dieties that druids worship in the Realms. Druids of Mielikki can use any of the standard armor of weapons that rangers normally use (all simple and martial weapons, all light and medium armor, and all shields) without violating their spiritual oaths."
Thain
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Two options... One, play it as is, and the player of the Elf Druid just has to give up on being an archer or using the longsword. Or go with option two, flex your GM muscle and allow the druid access to these weapons.
IMC, I allow Druids some expanded weapon selection. Bows (but not x-bows) are legal weapons as far as my world's druidic circles are concerned. A small number of Elven Druids weild longswords, but for political reasons*. Most other Druids find this practice repugnant, but other than the social sigma, Elf Druids don't loose anything, ie, spells or class abilites.
* = IMC, the elven kingdom of Averoth was once occupied by an invading human nation of Celeste. These humans had a montheistic church which outlawed traditional elven religion (druids), crushed the elf's martial orders and dueling soceities (bladesingers), and was exteremly wary of any elves forming an underground of resistance.
The Church also banned any elves from bearing arms. The traditional elven weapons were a key area of concern for the Church. The thinblade was a smybol of elven royalty, and the raiper favored by wealthy elven duelists. The longsword was a symbol of the elven military and the bladesingers.
When the elves finally won their freedom (after four to five years of hard fought campigning by the PCs) the elven culture rallied around the symbols of their culture, and the heros who freed them.
We still play in this campaign world, albeit in a new edition, and elves tend to regard their longswords like the post-war japanese do the katana. A symbol of national and racial pride, heritage and history.
IMC, I allow Druids some expanded weapon selection. Bows (but not x-bows) are legal weapons as far as my world's druidic circles are concerned. A small number of Elven Druids weild longswords, but for political reasons*. Most other Druids find this practice repugnant, but other than the social sigma, Elf Druids don't loose anything, ie, spells or class abilites.
* = IMC, the elven kingdom of Averoth was once occupied by an invading human nation of Celeste. These humans had a montheistic church which outlawed traditional elven religion (druids), crushed the elf's martial orders and dueling soceities (bladesingers), and was exteremly wary of any elves forming an underground of resistance.
The Church also banned any elves from bearing arms. The traditional elven weapons were a key area of concern for the Church. The thinblade was a smybol of elven royalty, and the raiper favored by wealthy elven duelists. The longsword was a symbol of the elven military and the bladesingers.
When the elves finally won their freedom (after four to five years of hard fought campigning by the PCs) the elven culture rallied around the symbols of their culture, and the heros who freed them.
We still play in this campaign world, albeit in a new edition, and elves tend to regard their longswords like the post-war japanese do the katana. A symbol of national and racial pride, heritage and history.
Tzarevitch
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Angelsboi said:
Sickles???
Tzarevitch
Pielorinho
Iron Fist of Pelor
As I've said in other threads, I think this is the goofiest rule in 3E -- a druid can, for example, throw a stone at someone using a sling, but if she picks a stone off the ground and hurls it at someone, she breaks her druidic vows. (my more colorful example involves a wildshaped-into-a-monkey druid flinging feces, but I won't repeat that one here).
There are two good compromises, IMHO:
Mean compromise: rewrite druidic rules such that they cannot use any weapon or armor made from metal. This makes lots of sense to me, but removes the scimitar and other nice weapons from their reach. Allow them proficiency in all simple and martial weapons to make up for this.
Nice compromise: their list of weapons becomes like a rogue's list of weapons: it's what they know how to use, not what they're allowed to use. If they somehow gain proficiency in a falchion, a greatclub, or a longbow, they're allowed to use it.
Daniel
There are two good compromises, IMHO:
Mean compromise: rewrite druidic rules such that they cannot use any weapon or armor made from metal. This makes lots of sense to me, but removes the scimitar and other nice weapons from their reach. Allow them proficiency in all simple and martial weapons to make up for this.
Nice compromise: their list of weapons becomes like a rogue's list of weapons: it's what they know how to use, not what they're allowed to use. If they somehow gain proficiency in a falchion, a greatclub, or a longbow, they're allowed to use it.
Daniel
Malin Genie
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Sejs said:
Why do people persist in abusing the poor Spikes (and its little brother Brambles) spells so? They specifically require a wooden striking surface, not a wooden edge (or wooden point - somebody was trying on another thread to argue for a lance...)
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