Elite Troll (my first creation or upgrade as u might say)

[Vincenzo]

Elite Troll
Large Giant
Hit Dice: 30d8+180 (315)
Initiative: +2 (dex)
Speed: 20 feet (armor)
AC : 29 (-1 size, +2 dex, +8 +5 hide, +10 natural)
Attacks: 2 claws +28 melee, bite +23 melee, Huge club (2 handed) +28/+23/+18/+13 melee, 2 large clubs +22/+17/+12/+7 and a +18 offhand
Damage: Claw 2d6+9, bite 2d6+6, huge club 2d8+9 (x2), large club 2d6+6
Face/Reach: 5ft by 5ft/10ft
Special attacks: Rend 2d8+9
Special Qualities:Regeneration5, scent, darkvision90ft
Saves: Fort +23, Ref +12, Will +11
Abilities: Str 23, Dex 14, Con 23, Int 6, Wis 9, Cha 6
Skills: Listen +12, Spot +12
Feats: Alertness, Iron will, Medium Armor proficiency, Power Attack, Cleave, Great Cleave, Whirlwind Attack, Combat Reflexes
Climate/Terrain: Any land,aquatic, and underground
Organization: Solitary or gang (2-4)
Challenge rating: 9 (not sure)
Treasure: standard
Alignment: Always chaotic evil
Advancement: by character class

The biggest and best fighters of all trolls. These especially high standard trolls are the toughest you'll find. They have adapted to armor use which makes them even more of a threat.

 

[Psychotic Jim]

A powerful creature, to say the least. First, you might want to make this bad boy larger. Second, he should get more skill points and feats because of his advanced HD. And the CR seems like it should be higher.

 

[Vincenzo]

k sounds good. post what u think the changes should be. The size will stay the same but i think im gonna kick up the CR to like 12 or 13

 

[Psychotic Jim]

Okay, since he is advanced so far, he needs 5 more feats (maybe Power Attack and its cousings (Sunder, Cleave, ect.) or Improved Initiative. Also, this elite troll gets 24 more skill points. Class skills for a troll are only Listen and Spot; all others are cross class. I might also give this monster troll a magic weapon of some sort.

 

[Vincenzo]

so what do u think? good new twist to an old creature?

 

[Vincenzo]

Results of this in a good battle.

I had a siege of trolls attack a gnomen village the adventurers were in.

Army of Town:
25 Gnomen Fighters (like in MM)
15 Spearman
10 Archers
10 mages
3 Clerics
2 Catapaults
10/10 Cleric/Sorc (PC)
9/1/10 Fighter/pally/sorc (PC)
20 Ranger with Dragonne (PC)
19/1 Barbarian/Ranger (PC)
20 Monk (PC)

Trolls:
30 Trolls from MM
5 Elite trolls like ones above

I threw this army of trolls against that force and they knocked out all except 5 mages, 3 clerics and the pcs which were damaged pretty damn badly.

They work against 20th level pcs. i say challenge rating .... 13-15 depends on party.