D&D 5E Elusive class feature

[serch]

How do you think the elusive class feature awarded to the rogue interact with other feats, spells, abilities and class features such as reckless attack, feinting, true strike, ...? Basically, elusive makes any attack against you unable to benefit from advantage unless incapacitated, while those other abilities grants advantage on their attacks to those that use them. How would you solve the conflict?

 

[AaronOfBarbaria]

There isn't a "conflict", Elusive is very specific about what it does - and that is what it does, full stop.

 

[Nikosandros]

I would say that the attacks do not gain advantage. The rogue ability specifies that it negates advantage; it doesn't matter where the advantage came from.

 

[serch]

Well the other abilities are also very specific. Imagine a barbarian 2/rogue 18, can he reckless attack forever without advantaged retaliation?


Edited for clarity

 

[jaelis]

Well the other abilities are also very specific. Imagine a barbarian 2/rogue 18, can he reckless attack forever without suffering disadvantage?

Yep.

Reckless Attack has to use Str though to benefit.

 

[serch]

Nasty combo for a strength based rogue, though limited to very high level play.

 

[AaronOfBarbaria]

Well the other abilities are also very specific.

Correct, and they specifically don't say that they can't be out-done by a feature that specifically says their effect doesn't apply.

Imagine a barbarian 2/rogue 18, can he reckless attack forever without suffering disadvantage?

20th level characters are supposed to be able to do extremely powerful things... and I think a rogue-ish character is probably going to prefer 2 more levels of rogue over 2 levels of barbarian in the majority of cases, so I don't think there is actually a problem with the the combo.

 

[serch]

Well, I'd prefer the ability to sneak attack consistently over two more rogue levels, YMMV. Still only a problem to very high level play.

 

[ccs]

Well the other abilities are also very specific. Imagine a barbarian 2/rogue 18, can he reckless attack forever without suffering disadvantage?

I'm not seeing your issue. Advantage can be negated. The Elusive class feature is just one example of how that'll occur.

 

[serch]

My issue is weird combos and players wasting actions. Standard issues with high level play though.