Mithreander
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Sorry, but we are only using 3.5 materials, we aren't in the forgotten realms, plus we've already started. So maybe in the next game, or if everyone else is okay with the concept.
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silentspace
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Come on, what do you say about Thanee's cleric build? I'm sure the party will all be behind a more effective combat support cleric! Looks like we might have some action soon, so if you allow it I'll have to do it quick.
That Hitorum fellow is losing it! lol Can't wait to see where you're going with this.
That Hitorum fellow is losing it! lol Can't wait to see where you're going with this.
Thanee
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The problem there is, that Labelas Enoreth is very much FR and the stuff I posted uses a lot of non-3.5 material as well.
Also it'd interfere a bit with the upcoming trust between the Paladin and the Cleric. It's pretty cool to have both with the same deity, I think.
If we don't want to move too far away from 3.5, I wouldn't really advice to use that, especially since you don't even know Labelas' Portfolio and Dogma, as you say.
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Thanee
Also it'd interfere a bit with the upcoming trust between the Paladin and the Cleric. It's pretty cool to have both with the same deity, I think.
If we don't want to move too far away from 3.5, I wouldn't really advice to use that, especially since you don't even know Labelas' Portfolio and Dogma, as you say.
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Thanee
silentspace
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Well, I think I could learn about Labelas Enoreth pretty quickly, I mean its just a few paragraphs of text like all the other deities and domains, isn't it? It's not like learning molecular biology! And isn't Shar an FR diety?
But if people are against it then nevermind, it was just an idea.
But if people are against it then nevermind, it was just an idea.
Thanee
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Yep, Shar is FR, but the deity here is not that one (at least I hope so), since Shar is a very evil deity (goddess of hatred, jealousy and evil)! 
I think this is more the shadow aspect of Shar, which was looked after for background reasons.
With the cleric stuff, there is a lot of non-3.5 material involved, which would collide with the premise to use the 3.5 books primarily, however. That's why I think it's not such a good idea.
It's not that you can't make a decent archery-based cleric with any other god. Just choose Point Blank Shot and Rapid Shot, maybe Precise Shot, some metamagic and you're all set.
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Thanee
I think this is more the shadow aspect of Shar, which was looked after for background reasons.
With the cleric stuff, there is a lot of non-3.5 material involved, which would collide with the premise to use the 3.5 books primarily, however. That's why I think it's not such a good idea.
It's not that you can't make a decent archery-based cleric with any other god. Just choose Point Blank Shot and Rapid Shot, maybe Precise Shot, some metamagic and you're all set.
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Thanee
Lichtenhart
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Silentspace, you have every right to build your char as you like, but I think I'd support more changes for background reasons rather than for mechanical reasons.
Remaining a follower of Pelor would allow some interesting discussion about how a dwarf and a elf, a cleric and a paladin apply the sun's code. And it would be fun to see Shadowleaf squint everytime he talks with us.
(That is just too cool, Majin)
I think too you can build an effective archer without changing god, and I wouldn't worry too much about combat, with Dar, Xanthas and Shadowleaf (especially if Dylan gives us a hand), but if you think that build is just too cool, go for it.
Remaining a follower of Pelor would allow some interesting discussion about how a dwarf and a elf, a cleric and a paladin apply the sun's code. And it would be fun to see Shadowleaf squint everytime he talks with us.
(That is just too cool, Majin)I think too you can build an effective archer without changing god, and I wouldn't worry too much about combat, with Dar, Xanthas and Shadowleaf (especially if Dylan gives us a hand), but if you think that build is just too cool, go for it.
Lichtenhart
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Thanee said:Yep, Shar is FR, but the deity here is not that one (at least I hope so), since Shar is a very evil deity (goddess of hatred, jealousy and evil)!
I think this is more the shadow aspect of Shar, which was looked after for background reasons.
I was hoping so too, but I'd like to have a final word about it by Mith or Majin.
At least so I can make Dar react properly
Majin
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Yea I thought the whole squinting thing was a nice touch and made sense. Hopefully I can find some Goggles of UV Protection somewhere along the line.
As for Shar, I got my information on her from my FR "Faiths & Pantheons" supplement. It's got a 3 page write up on her, and despite her having a certain bent towards evil she doesn't seem that bad once you read the description (At least to me
) It doesnt say anything in there about her being the goddess of hatred, jealousy, and evil at all, where did you read that Thanee? Maybe the FRCS book itself? Or maybe just a mixup? Not sure, but I cannot find anything like that in her description...
My main motivation behind choosing Shar as my characters deity was vastly because of flavor and background. She just fit, and I figured the way Shadowleaf came to know her was in a certain light, quite innocent. He believes she kept him company in his childhood years when he didn't have very many friends, so to him, she's a friend regardless of her true disposition. The concept behind it is just really supposed to focus on shadows and the dark and all that, which is basically what Shar's portfolio is about, among her worshippers are Shadowdancers so this fit nicely as well. I also see a certain kind of "neutrality" in darkness so things can go either way really.
Hope all this helped in explaining the reasoning behind choosing Shar as my characters deity.
As for Shar, I got my information on her from my FR "Faiths & Pantheons" supplement. It's got a 3 page write up on her, and despite her having a certain bent towards evil she doesn't seem that bad once you read the description (At least to me
) It doesnt say anything in there about her being the goddess of hatred, jealousy, and evil at all, where did you read that Thanee? Maybe the FRCS book itself? Or maybe just a mixup? Not sure, but I cannot find anything like that in her description...My main motivation behind choosing Shar as my characters deity was vastly because of flavor and background. She just fit, and I figured the way Shadowleaf came to know her was in a certain light, quite innocent. He believes she kept him company in his childhood years when he didn't have very many friends, so to him, she's a friend regardless of her true disposition. The concept behind it is just really supposed to focus on shadows and the dark and all that, which is basically what Shar's portfolio is about, among her worshippers are Shadowdancers so this fit nicely as well. I also see a certain kind of "neutrality" in darkness so things can go either way really.
Hope all this helped in explaining the reasoning behind choosing Shar as my characters deity.
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Thanee
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Yep, FRCS. Also the FR history.
The sentence I wrote above is a quote from her FRCS description.
But also in F&P there are some nice lines, like "...she schemes from the shadows to tear down establishments, destroy order and undermine all creation." or "Consorting with the faithful of good deities is a sin except in business dealings or to corrupt them from their beliefs." Also note, that her clerics may not be of a non-evil alignment!
Anyways... I think this here is obviously not the FR Shar (how could it, Shar is so interlinked with other FR deities (Selûne, Mystra, etc) and the Weave, which only exists in FR as well), but rather a similar goddess without all that evil portfolio stuff and more focused on being the goddess of shadows and darkness (which should be rather neutral then, yep), I suppose!
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Thanee
The sentence I wrote above is a quote from her FRCS description.
But also in F&P there are some nice lines, like "...she schemes from the shadows to tear down establishments, destroy order and undermine all creation." or "Consorting with the faithful of good deities is a sin except in business dealings or to corrupt them from their beliefs." Also note, that her clerics may not be of a non-evil alignment!
Anyways... I think this here is obviously not the FR Shar (how could it, Shar is so interlinked with other FR deities (Selûne, Mystra, etc) and the Weave, which only exists in FR as well), but rather a similar goddess without all that evil portfolio stuff and more focused on being the goddess of shadows and darkness (which should be rather neutral then, yep), I suppose!
Bye
Thanee
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