Enlarge and Shillelagh

[CrimsonTemplar]

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but there's nothing to prohibit this combo:

Druid (& his equipment) gets enlarged by party Wizard or Cleric with Strength domain. Druid is now Large and is armed with a Large club (or quarterstaff if you prefer) which now deals d8 damage (+ strength bonus). Druid then casts Shillelagh, so his weapon now does 3d6 +1 damage (+ strength bonus).

It's not overpowering & is only really useful @ low levels as there are probably better combos at higher levels. But it seems like it'd be good tactic for a low level party.

What do you think?

 

[Camarath]

Looks fine to me.

 

[Liquidsabre]

Yup, nice combo. If you can convince the arcane caster in the group to cast it on you. Then again there's a nice 2nd lvl combo with a Battle Sorcerer 1/Druid 1 heh.

 

[Gaiden]

I have a spontaneous casting druid/ranger who uses just this tactic. He casts shillelagh on his quaterstaff along with spikes and has the sorcerer use bull's strength and enlarge.

It is quite effective for a low level strategy. (He also is a fan of using smoke sticks and fire eyes together).

 

[Darklone]

Be glad that Shillelagh is not a domain spell (AFAIK) or you'll have clerics with that combo. The only problem of the combo: It does not help the druid to hit something.

Btw: Quarterstaffs usually are twohanded weapons for 1.5 times strength mod damage.

 

[Scharlata]

It does not help the druid to hit something.

.... and lowers the druid's AC by 2 points. Easy prey!

If an intelligent opponent witnesses the process of the casting or the effect of the Enlarge Person itself she may try to disarm or stun (to disarm) the enlarged druid - now with an AC 2 points worse than normal.

Kind regards (and thanx for the suggestion - I might give it a try)

 

[Nifelhein]

I have seen this in effect and it is a hell good, now let me ask one thing, do you consider greatclubs to be included in the club aspect of the spell?

 

[Li Shenron]

I think in general 2 effects that increase size don't stack. However Shillelagh does not increase size of the weapon, it just lets the weapon do damage as a larger weapon, but the size is unchanged. Therefore I think it's a valid combo

 

[Plane Sailing]

It is a fine combo (a cohort of one of my PCs uses it). Certainly not overpowering, it just means that for one (or possibly two) combats a day the character can do damage on a par with the fighter who has a 2H sword.

The ideal is if it can be combined with the combat reflexes feat of course, to get lots of high-damage AoO. And with expertise + improved trip (drools)

 

[shilsen]

I have seen this in effect and it is a hell good, now let me ask one thing, do you consider greatclubs to be included in the club aspect of the spell?

Nope.