ENnies: Publisher feedback and suggestions sought on the future of the ENnies

Many publishers may not want to donate money, but they might be willing to donate time. What if there was an ENnies Fund Raiser dinner at GenCon, with special guests provided by the various publishers? You could auction seats off beforehand so you could get cash in hand before the actual ceremony. I bet many folks would pay to have dinner with one of their favorite designers. Or instead of dinner, maybe auction seats for special games, like the "Play With the Creator" events they had this past Origins.
 

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Before I started typing, I sat staring at the big white box, trying to formulate a response. Lots of interesting suggestions and comments. Here are a few of my responses. Once again, the caveat that these are suggestions only, and do not bear any weight with ENWorld. When I say "we", I do not mean to imply that I have any more say than anyone else here, and it being "we", the people on ENWorld who care about the ENnies (including the publishers).

1. Perceived lack of value of the ENnies.
OK, so the ENnies aren't exactly the Oscars, but even so, the Academy Awards are all about recognizing excellence. Being an award-winning author or publisher bears some weight. Sure, your product cycle is long dead, but being an award-winning publisher has helped some. Even if there were not an additional marketing push put on (which I hope would occur, especially with someone with some PR experience at the helm), winning an ENnie is not a worthless accomplishment.
Sometimes it's not about the money. Let's face it, how many of us are in publishing for the money? Having that trophy on your shelf is a great conversation piece, and a reminder of that year of hard work paying off, and being given its due props. Even having a product nominated, or make honourable mention is a great stroke.
Did you know that as an ENnie award winner, you're a VIP at the following GenCon? This year it meant access to the VIP block of hotel rooms (very nice ones, I might add, at the Hyatt), a free GenCon VIP t-shirt & lanyard, $10 gift certificate for GenCon merch, and a $10 gift certificate towards concession food. If we got additional prizes, would it make the prospects rosier for publishers to participate?

In any case, I really do believe that there should be more attention paid to the promotion of the ENnies
-at GenCon (SoCal, Europe, & Indy)
-at Origins & GTS
-on ENWorld (keep the ENnies site up to date and more prominent, for example)
-in gaming magazines (my partner authored a frickin 2-page spread for Polyhedron last year, what more do we need?)
-to distributors
-to FLGSs
This could be accomplished by ads in trade magazines, encouraging companies to include more visible links to them on their websites, making sure nominated publishers receive a graphic they can use on their future products & advertisements, putting together a promo package to send out to gaming stores & distributors, etc.
I would also like to see, if possible, a marketing survey done of the consumer impact of the awards. Perhaps the Origins Awards already did one, if so, we might be able to beg them nicely to see their results. Or perhaps we could split the expense, and survey both awards. Some cooperation between the awards certainly wouldn't hurt, and the surveying process would also generate some buzz and interest in the ceremonies.

2. Volunteerism and Community
I'd like to politely remind everyone that the ENnies don't benefit ENWorld. It doesn't make any money -in fact, it's been a big money pit- and it certainly doesn't seem to get the judges nor Russ any more sex or higher dice rolls (and what is there else in life, really?). Sure, they get some free product, but hey- these guys have lives, and they have had to take time off work to read through every product submitted: in exchange for which, they keep the books. Heck, most of the judges are reviewers for ENWorld, and in theory, they should be getting free copies to review anyhow, right?
The ENnies are ENWorld community trying to acknowledge excellence in products that came out the previous year, as well as recognize those publishers (and fan sites) who really went above and beyond in quality. They are run by volunteers who take time away from their lives, their families, their jobs, etc. to do perform a fairly thankless task.
I'd like to try and think of a way of making the judges' lives easier, and save some money (or raise some).
Just sayin, is all.
/soap box

3. Major costs involved in the ENnies
Shipping is not the only large expense incurred by the ENnies. Here's a list off the top of my head:
-shipping product to the judges
-creation and shipping of the award trophies
-marketing the ENnies (booth decoration, mailouts to distributors & FLGSs, advertisement)
Less major expenses:
-ENnies awards ceremony
-postage of invitations to nominees, long-distance charges, etc.
This doesn't include the hundreds of volunteer hours donated by the staff and judges.

-I agree that voluntary donations from competitors is inappropriate, hence the concept of a flat fee.
-It should not be the onus of the awards ceremony to worry about shipping product for consideration for nomination.
-I would also like to explore the concept of in-kind donations (for example, Chris Pramas donates a gaming slot for the Thieve's World game he'll be running at GenCon Indy 2004. Chris Gath, being the huge TW fan he is, bids $50 for the privilege of sitting at that table. A portion of that money raised could be used to defray Green Ronin's entry fees).

The Shipping Issue
-it costs me about $7USD in postage and packaging to mail out a single book. Multiply that by six, it's $42. Based on those numbers, here are a few suggestions/options (I'd like to see more judges & publishers wade in on what they think)
1. $50 Entry fee for the first book, $25/subsequent submission. Send all of the copies to one location, the central place will handle the rest, including letting the publisher know when the book has been received, and sending out the individual copies to the judges. Minimal pain in the butt factor for the publishers, but a little more cash outlay, considerable PITA factor for the judges. How
2. Announce the judges WAY early, and let the publishers ship the product to each judge along with a nominal fee ($5 for first product + $2/additional product). Make sure there's a designated Publisher Relations person responsible for letting the publishers know that the products have been received.
3. Still keep the nominal fee, but give the publishers the option of sending PDFs of their products.

The entry fees would be put into an account dedicated for the use of the ENnies for approved expenses such as advertising budget, trophy purchase & shipping, etc. BTW, IIRC, the Indie RPG awards make you pay to enter.

Another possibility includes simply not having a judge-driven nomination process at all, and simply have fan nominations. I personally am not super keen on that one. I can see little merit in it, but it certainly would cut costs, though.

The Trophies
This is the next biggest expense. If people are balking at the concept of entry fees and/or shipping costs, and are convinced about the lack of worth of the awards, maybe we shouldn't even bother with trophies and an awards ceremony? OK, that's being a bit facetious, but if there's zero benefit to anyone, why bother?
As a past winner, I like having a physical representation to collect dust -err, I mean- be prominently displayed on my shelf. But what do other winners and nominees think? Does having the trophy mean much to you? Would a certificate or ribbon mean as much? What about the shape of the award?
This year's GenCon Dude trophies cost around $60 each, iirc. The ENnies d20 were cheaper. Do we want to use the GenCon Dude (and possibly get a bulk discount)? Do we want to continue to use the d20? Should we design a newer award, or find a cheaper one? If we shopped in Indy, at least we could defer the shipping costs! There are plenty of trophy places out there offering trophies that would cost only $20-$30 each... what does it mean to you, the winner, to have an award in the shape of a d20 (especially if it's not for a d20 product)? Or would having an acrylic, engraved award or plaque suffice?

Marketing the ENnies
If we want the publishers to feel more comfortable about spending the time and energy required to submit their product for consideration, as well as to get them to come to the ceremony, we need to try to have the ENnies enjoy a larger impact- at GenCon, on ENWorld, in the FLGSs. This takes money and a lot of time and effort. Hence, the suggested entry fee and/or need for fundraising.
First of all, we need to score some decorations for the ENnies booth. A few banners, some shelving and/or other means of displaying nominated products and a sample trophy, rental of computer equipment and internet connection plus a table and chairs, and printing up posters announcing winners all cost money. Fortunately, the banners should be a one-time expense, as would be the display racks.
Next up, would be a program of some kind. I'd like to see a pamphlet of some kind generated detailing the nominated products and their publishers available to be distributed throughout the convention. Perhaps in the registration package? Or maybe through the ENnies booth and the involved publisher... At least, have them available at the ceremony itself so people could use them as a scorecard. There should be a map to the ceremony from the convention, and any other relevant details. This is where individual publishers could chip in with a little advertising money. The votes would already be in for the products, so it wouldn't matter how much or how little they put in, it wouldn't skew the votes. Publishers could also include coupons, advertise their booth number, etc.
Then it's advertising money. ENP has the staff to design ads, but we'd still need the money to place them. We might be able to beg Peter into letting us have more space in his programs, but even then, we're not reaching the gaming public. We need to get something into the GTS and Origins propaganda packages. Into distributor's hands. Into the FLGSs. This is a multiple-thousand dollar proposition. I propose we start off small, and grass-roots. See how much we can barter, and trust the ENWorld community to do a little legwork: we could assemble a spiffy-looking promotional package that peeps could download, print, and bring to their FLGS. Heck, the publishers might want to get in on this action as well (I'd love to see what Steve Creech did along these lines- I've been thinking of doing something similar for years, but never quite got around to it!)
Finally, getting more media attention for the awards. The ENnies need someone with some PR experience and contacts.

4. Other Fundraising Options
-Gala dinner before the ceremony. Require event tickets to get in, get some celebrities and big name game designers to come in. I like Chris P's suggestion of an auction in advance for seats. Assuming the ENnies'd be doing designated seating next year, how would the various publishers feel about having a couple of raving fanboys & girls at their table during dinner and/or the ceremony all in the name of fundraising?
-Play With The Creator events: lots of potential, so long as the creator types aren't too busy at the Con! Great idea.
-Corporate Sponsors. No, not those competing. But if WotC decided to permanently bow out, perhaps they'd like to sponsor the best d20 Award for a few years, for $100/year? Or Adobe or Quark might sponsor the Best Electronic Product? Microsloth/AOHell for best fan site? Jolt Cola? Mountain Dew? Maybe they may not be willing to donate lots of money, but in-kind contributions go far as well. Perhaps publishers would feel happier knowing that if they won, they'd win a free weekend stay at a hotel? Or dinner for four at The Ram?
-other fundraiser: I've got a brilliant idea for a fundraising product for ENWorld/the ENnies. If I get the job of running these awards, I think you'd be pleasantly surprised. Not going to let that idea out yet until it's ready to rock- I'd hate to get scooped.

And on the subject of me offering to run the ENnies for next year: whether twould be under the aegis of ENPublishing (got the team, and some money, but might create tension with a publisher, even one that can't be nominated, running it), or me as an individual (got the skills, am a freelancer for ENP and a few other companies, won an award in the past, have an eye for detail and throw a good party)... yeah. I'd like the job. It's up to Russ (and Peter) to decide who they can deal with, and who could get the job done, and I suspect an answer will be forthcoming in the next few weeks...

Phew. Everyone else in the family's gone to bed an hour ago. Time for me to hit "Submit Reply" and join them!
 

Pramas said:
Many publishers may not want to donate money, but they might be willing to donate time. What if there was an ENnies Fund Raiser dinner at GenCon, with special guests provided by the various publishers? You could auction seats off beforehand so you could get cash in hand before the actual ceremony. I bet many folks would pay to have dinner with one of their favorite designers. Or instead of dinner, maybe auction seats for special games, like the "Play With the Creator" events they had this past Origins.

Thanks, Chris you've given me a million dollar idea. A modern day remake of "My Dinner with Andre"; however instead it would be "My Dinner with Hal...Greenberg." Yes, step right up and bid on the experience of a lifetime. You too can tell your friends that you were in the presence of greatness for one magical evening of witty insights and sounds you never knew existed.

Forget Oathbound. I'm getting started on this movie script.
 

Okay, my lag time yesterday made it almost impossible for me to post and respond to other’s posts. My post would go up after several people had already said the same things. I am going to try to split responses into two posts (both will be long).

ByronD, I think you should comment and be part of the discussion. I think everyone that is part of ENWorld should. Publishers have been asked for input and we are trying to comply. My response time was very slow yesterday, because connecting to ENWorld (for me at least) is very, very slow in the afternoon (Central time, US).

First, I think you should stick to DnD/d20/OGL that is what the site is known for, that is what the judges and fans at the site know best. I honestly think that expanding beyond that is not going to help the awards any. I am very much of the “do one thing, do it well” philosophy.

Second, these awards were started as “fan” awards. There should be some sort of fan voting, whether it is entirely fan based, or fans vote on choices made by Judges. I think a “judge’s choice” award would be welcome, but this should primarily be a fan award because that is the way you have advertised and promoted it.

Third, I believe you want to maximize the number of publishers participating. Most of my comments in posts above are related to this point.

Problem: the major problem I see right now is funding for the Ennies, and a major point that has been discussed is the shipping of products to judges. There are also general funding problems (as I understand) with other parts of the presentation.

Several solutions have been discussed.

Alternative: Monte’s suggestion of several rounds of voting. Sounds like a logistical nightmare, but if you have guys that can handle the web and statistic end, it might be a good idea. Asking for “donations” to defray the costs of the ceremony and awards is cool here because those donations should remain anonymous and shouldn’t alter public (fan) voting.

Alternative: Have publishers ship to one location but pay an “entry fee” to help defray costs of shipping to the individual judges. This solves the “time and hassle” issue of shipping to individual locations for the publisher. Personally, I don’t have problems with this, or with a general entry fee, but I think some publishers would. It might be your only real alternative, I just don’t know what that is going to do to the number of publishers entering. I believe an entry fee can be written off as a business expense for those companies that actually have a positive balance.

Alternative: Fund raising: this is a pain, someone has to run it, organize it, etc. I don’t think this is a good plan for long-term viability. As an additional source of funding, great, as a primary source I just don’t think this is going to work. Authors are not there to sign books to auction off, we are there to sign whatever books are handed to us (that we have written anyway) and to talk with people about them. I don’t see many game designers (other than, maybe, Monte- who is always busy enough at the convention) that are really going to draw people to buy seats at a fund raising dinner.

Alternative: ask Wizards of the Coast to help fund the awards, use it as an advertising venue for them. They can’t compete (as they fund it) but the d20 system helps support their core rule books and other releases and we can claim that their support of the d20 and OGL products can only enhance their reputation and help them sell more books. If successful, WotC’s name would be behind the awards giving added credibility and weight. You would certainly have to allow them to advertise though. If this worked you could also ask them to supply two judges. This would help with a lot of things, respect, getting other companies to submit, etc. This is my favorite alternative, but I honestly don’t know how easy this would be. If you try this I would suggest asking them to provide say, 2 of the 5 judges. This should also help with the “weight” of the award. This is probably going to be a hard sell.

Alternative: ask GenCon to pay the full cost of the awards. Not high on my list, because I am under the impression that you’ll feel forced to include a full range of gaming systems in the contest and I simply don’t believe that is good for the award.

Alternative: same as the previous 2, essentially, but some other source, popular DnD-based computer game, large game publisher looking for advertising. coming out or something similar. This would cause problems because you’d probably be looking for a new sponsor every year. Searching for sponsors is a lot of work.

For the last 3 alternatives you need to write up a “business plan” detailing your projected expenses and costs, and you’ll need to discuss the number of people that might be attending the award ceremony, number of people interested in who wins (individual people, not page hits), etc.

None of these alternatives is a walk in the park.
 

Okay, continuing on …
Problem: value of winning an Ennie. Obviously, some of us have different views on this. Until the awards become more established and more well-known they aren’t going to have a market impact. This means that right now they would be considered “vanity awards” (I do NOT mean this to have a negative connotation). They provide recognition to people that have done a good job in fields of work that are relatively low-paid (if paid at all in some cases) without providing a tangible financial benefit. This helps encourage people to try harder and strive to do better. For that alone, the Ennies have great value. A number of publishers would like to see the “muscle” of the award increase so they can use it to help in marketing. It does cost us money to enter, we’d like to turn that into a benefit for us as well. I don’t think an increase in costs/entry fees is going to keep the majority of publishers already involved from entering again next year. I do know of some that say they wouldn’t, but I think that if you keep enough others involved they’ll stick around.

The more publishers you have entering and backing the awards, the better off you’ll be. Things that might help.

Advertising the awards: this was proposed above, unfortunately, this is very expensive. About the only way you can do this is if companies do this for you when advertising a product that won an Ennie. If you try to do magazine advertisements you really will blow your budget in no time.

Get WotC involved: get WotC to promote d20 more, and ask them to help promote the Ennies more. Approach them from a marketing view point, d20 products do support their core rules products. I honestly don’t think people controlling the purse strings at WotC right now are going to go for this very easily.

Ask Paizo to do an article on the winners (even a short one page or half page bit would help). Dungeon and Dragon reach far more gamers than ENWorld does. I think Eric Mona would be up for something like this, the only way to find out is for you to ask.

Keep the Ennies page updated, list previous years’ winners and nominees, provide links to the publishers, even links to their online stores if they have them. Even if this only sells 1-2 books the publisher can list this as a benefit.

Ask publishers that have received awards to mention not only that they did receive an award on their website but also to link to the Ennies website (providing the graphic award symbol and link to make it easier would help).

Award Ceremony: plan your award ceremony around the other “major” events at the convention. Don’t compete with the White Wolf party, or whatever WotC party is thrown. Having the awards before one of these parties is fine. You want as many of the “major players” to be present at your awards as possible. Don’t force them to choose between the Ennies Award Ceremony and any sort of party/meeting/celebration involving people that actually make them money, write them checks, or that they want to negotiate a contract with.

One major point I have about this, the Ennies are still a “fledgling” award. The growth and recognition of the award is going to require time. Most awards like this die out within 3-6 years. This award is close to a “break point” if you can maintain it the recognition of the award will increase.
 
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Dextra said:
The Trophies
This is the next biggest expense... Does having the trophy mean much to you? Would a certificate or ribbon mean as much? What about the shape of the award?
This year's GenCon Dude trophies cost around $60 each, iirc. The ENnies d20 were cheaper. Do we want to use the GenCon Dude (and possibly get a bulk discount)? Do we want to continue to use the d20? Should we design a newer award, or find a cheaper one? If we shopped in Indy, at least we could defer the shipping costs! There are plenty of trophy places out there offering trophies that would cost only $20-$30 each... what does it mean to you, the winner, to have an award in the shape of a d20 (especially if it's not for a d20 product)? Or would having an acrylic, engraved award or plaque suffice?
If that's the case, then this problem seems to me one of the easier ones to solve.

If the ENnies insist on being open to all game systems (and SpoonyBard made that quite clear in his screaming fit in the previous thread), then we know that the d20 design is right out - it's completely inappropriate for any winner of a non-d20 product and is certainly not "all inclusive".

Further, if GenCon wants to use the custom "GenCon Dude", then it's quite obvious that GenCon should be entirely paying for those. Period.

Indeed, Dextra is right. One can buy nice looking little plaques for US$15 each, and then just a little more for engraving. $20 per plaque is a far cry from $60 per trophy. As well, little plaques are widely available and purchasing them right in Indianapolis would defray another portion of costs (ie. shipping).

(Just some thoughts from a non-publisher... but professional Cost Accountant!)
 

tf360 said:
Thanks, Chris you've given me a million dollar idea. A modern day remake of "My Dinner with Andre"; however instead it would be "My Dinner with Hal...Greenberg." Yes, step right up and bid on the experience of a lifetime. You too can tell your friends that you were in the presence of greatness for one magical evening of witty insights and sounds you never knew existed.

Forget Oathbound. I'm getting started on this movie script.


You have had that pleasure so you know my rapier wit and wonderful personality should raise at least $.45 per seat!

The dinner/hang time event for money sounds like a cool thing to me. I would go to such an event, especially to see James Bell from FDP--he is dreamy!
 

So, you really want to fix the ENnies? Here's my easy three-step plan* to make them more than what they are now:

1.) Make Them Timely and Relevant: Roleplaying game products have a shelf life of about 90 days. Giving out awards a year (or more) after something has been released is largely a waste of time. Make the awards a quarterly affair where every product released in that quarter competes against every other product. Have the quarterly award winners compete for "Game of the Year" at Gen Con.

Don't give out plaques for the quarterly awards; don't have an awards ceremony for them. Announce them over the website, through the retailer Delphi forums, and to all of the distributors. Talk Dragon and every other publication into running a quarterly article for the winners that focuses on unique aspects of the ENnies and the winners.

Don't follow the model of the broken and mangled Origins Awards. Yearly awards don't matter to most RPG publishers because they have zero effect on sales. If there's no benefit to getting an award, don't expect a publisher to spend money to win them.

Yes, it's an honor to win an award. It's even better to win one that has an impact on your business and enriches the freelancer and the company involved in producing them.

2.) Judges Seek All Products: It's the job of the judges to make sure that every product released in the quarter is available to be voted on by the fans. While they might get products from companies more deeply involved in the process, receiving product isn't a requirement for entry.

3.) Move ENWorld back toward neutral ground. Stop being a publisher; move your publishing arm to a different website and treat it like anyone else. Publishers don't like paying for banners and other advertising opportunities from a competing publisher. We don't generally want to be part of something that drives our customers to you either.

*Yes, there are lots of specifics to be worked out to make these things work perfectly. Follow your heart, my child...
 

Jim Butler said:
Lots of awesome stuff snipped.

This is a vote for Jim's post and everything in it. Everything he said should be considered and discussed.

As the awards are currently, they're not worth my time to deal with. It's not meant as a slam, it's just a cold fact of life that jumping through all of the necessary hoops isn't something I have time for.
 

Unfortunately, those suggestions, while making the ENnies great for publishers, make them pointless for EN World, in terms of both time and cost.

Judges seek products -- that's a cost increase; our problem is currently costs.

Moving EN Publishing away - that's also a cost increase (in terms of less sales); again, our problem is currently costs.

Bear in mind that the ENnies don't benefit EN World - so EN World's not going to sacrifice anything for their benefit. If something had to go, the ENnies would be the first thing, before anything else associated with the site.
 

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