ENWorld = whiners arguing ?

[DragonLancer]

Yes, some of the debates get heated, but c'mon: try reading the wotc boards for more than half an hour before you're overcome with the desire to tear your keyboard apart with a claw hammer. I dare ya.

I'll pass. I've tried reading to the WotC boards and it never happens. They are so dull, nothing of interest ever gets posted there. Dullsville well before I see the flames and rants.

 

[iwatt]

all of that being said, I have noticed that we have a penchant for discussing an item to death, resurrecting it, and doing it again.

Shhh.... You'll bring Shilsen's paladin thread back to life


Edit Post: To late, it has risen from it's grave once more...

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

To a newcomer, such thread can very well be seen as whining (I know I do). Plus the the WOTC sucks! and/or 4E threads, etc.... This place aint what it used to be IMO.

The interesting thing is that, really, only the topics have changed. It USED to be edition wars(not a hint of 4e threads), Paladin problems, Ranger got teh shaft threads, an alignment debates...those have faded out more so that I'd have ever expected, and new things have stepped up to take their place.

 

[DonTadow]

There are just way too many threads on here to sterotype anything. I've seen some great debates, some highly theoretical debates, some straight up mud slinging debates and complete whining. There are reviews, opinionated. Its just alot going on on here. Best thing is the advice. I recommend to every dm i come in contact with that if they want to get better go to ENworld.

 

[Crothian]

It is true, just doesn't apply to everyone.

 

[IronWolf]

I don't think the boards seem whiny to me. Sure there are threads that might go that way, but as a whole I find this a very friendly community. There aren't too many places on the Internet that have this atmosphere in my opinion. EN World certainly has a community feel from what I can see in my time here. Like anyplace though it may just take some time getting used to the place before one feels like they fit in or that its a place they want to hang out. Even with all of that, EN World can't be everything for everybody - but no site can do that.

My impression is that either my view of the game/board has changed or the regulars changed. There's way too many threads about trivial things that should never be discussed on a message board IMO. Here is not the place to find the solution to your gaming problems as insignificant (or significant) they may be. Here is the place to hear about new d20 products and (house) rules of the game.

I am not sure why this isn't the place for solutions to gaming problems. The rules and house rules are still discussed in their own forums and the site still focuses on news on the main page and in threads and forums on the board. While I wasn't here in the early days it just seems to me that EN World has evolved into a community rather than simply a news site and place to debate rules. I think all the things you mention liking about EN World are still here, just there is also *more* going on now than there used to be.

 

[Ashrum the Black]

Originally Posted by iwatt:
Shhh.... You'll bring Shilsen's paladin thread back to life


Edit Post: To late, it has risen from it's grave once more...

Oops, I shall report forthwith to the Inquisition for my dabblings in thread necromancy!

-Ashrum

 

[Hussar]

Whoops, it appears I have run afoul of the aformentioned unmentionables and had my post deleted. Heh. Well, suffice to say that I think that ENworld is full of very articulate, passionate gamers who really put a great deal of thought into their games. It's been a real pleasure to discover posting here.

 

[DonTadow]

Whoops, it appears I have run afoul of the aformentioned unmentionables and had my post deleted. Heh. Well, suffice to say that I think that ENworld is full of very articulate, passionate gamers who really put a great deal of thought into their games. It's been a real pleasure to discover posting here.

This post sounds even better when read aloud in a smarmy British Accent.

 

[Bastoche]

I am not sure why this isn't the place for solutions to gaming problems.

First, because anyone who post a "problem" post a one-sided story with way too much lack of details to come up with anything usefull to anyone. Second, because any gaming group that listens to the offered "solutions" do not play their game but the standardized ENworld type of game TM. I greatly dislike the general attutide I feel here that define the DM as the omnipotent master of "his" game. The solutions to "so-called" problems are very streamlined by peer pressure. Are we playing the game right? Etc.

Each and everyone of these dicussion fails to address the real question: Do all the players around the table want to play the same game? 3E assumes all players "powergame". Each character has to fill a role in the party else all that CR buisness fails. However, it is possible to use these rules for a different approach. Yet in all this "solution search to gaming problems" threads, that issue is NEVER pointed out. Everyone suggest what HE would do presuming everyone play with the same style as HE. Therefore, no solution can ever come out of these discussions.

The rules and house rules are still discussed in their own forums and the site still focuses on news on the main page and in threads and forums on the board. While I wasn't here in the early days it just seems to me that EN World has evolved into a community rather than simply a news site and place to debate rules. I think all the things you mention liking about EN World are still here, just there is also *more* going on now than there used to be.

ENworld never "evolved" into a community. It always has been, like every/most forum. The *more* that is going on is IMO overshadowing the good stuff. YMMV. I know my gaming needs have changed a lot during my current campaign and it may be influencing my opinion of ENworld negatively... That being said, I still participate a bit...