Epic D&D campaign (still recruiting)

[Shayuri]

Ahh, I didn't even think to check Savage Species. Thanks for the rules catch there!

 

[Rathan]

Dharuhk Svahre I humbly ask you rethink augmenting items to allow for multiple bonuses per item and the like. If we're to be epic... and more powerful the better, regular items just aren't worthy of the epic prowess. To encompass the epic spectrum we really need more diversity to show here that we have the stuff that's allowed us to survive in whatever world we came from to make it to the peak and height an epic level character stands at on a daily basis.

If you ask me this 'epic' prowess requires epic and non-traditional items to back it up, plus the rules in the DMG are given for just such occasions, letting PC's and DM's alike create items not so cookie-cutter. What do you say?

 

[Jemal]

When utilizing templates, you begin with the base creature. Then you add all inherited templates during the same step (Birth), after which you add aquired templates in whichever order they are aquired.

Both natural Lycanthrope and Half-Dragon are Inherited templates, and since they are both applied at the same time, would be applied in whichever manner is more appropriate. Since half dragon>Lycanthrope is impossible, you must apply Lycanthrope first, which doesn't change the type but adds the shapechanger subtype. You then would apply Half-Dragon and the type would become dragon(Shapechanger)

The only time two inherited templates cannot coexist is if no combination of them would be legal, or if any of them cannot be applied to the base creature itself.


As to the Vow, the simplest way is to just continue the natural extension of bonuses that allready acrue, which I'd be perfectly fine with unless you want to introduce more unique abilities (Like the fredom of movement/mind shield/greater sustenance). The only question I have is do you consider the bonuses to be based on ECL or HD?

 

[ghostcat]

As Vertexx69 has bagged the undead rogue spot, I'll go for the party tank instead. Which no-one seems to have claimed. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Still looking at options, so haven't definitely decided what I'll be going with yet.

 

[Albedo]

I'd would like to toss my hat into the ring here if there is still room. I'm thinking of playing a chameleon from races of destiny, along with the draconic heritage feat and practical metagmaic from Races of Dragons, and some silthilar grafts from book of abberations. That should cover non sore/complete sources I want to use. Any objections?

 

[HolyMan]

I think there will be room as I have no time. There is a bunch of things I should have been doing this weekend for other games and I found myself to busy with fleshing out the epic character.

Thanks for the time and answering the questions right away but alas my second save to resist has succeed.

Have fun everyone.

HM

 

[Dharuhk Svahre]

Lycanthropy can only be passed or born to humanoids and giants. So no matter how you build it, half dragon and were-anything cannot exist in the same body bud. As long as its type is dragon, its immune to the lycan gene. Same with feral as it changes your type to monstrous humanoid. When I built my super beast, I went Minotaur wearbear for a nasty combo. But if flying is your intent, there are a bunch of items that can do it for you around the 50k mark.

And more questions:
Can I add the strait money abilities to specific items, like adding Everbright (+2,000g MIC pg34) to the pair of souldrinkers I plan to mainly use?

Since I'm dual wielding would it be ok if I bought pairs of weapon crystals so I can add an effect to both weapons at the same time?

Can we buy our epic items intelligence, or roll for it randomly? I'm thinking nothing more vocal than empathy to cut down on NPC banter.

How would you feel about using the Pathfinder bonuses and class features for base classes and feat progression?

k, so first off once again no mods on specific items, ehancement or gp value. Second, I mentioned that weapons are an exception to the one item rule, so I'll let the crystals slide. Third, intelligent items are fine. you are epic after all. Lastly, no pathfinder please.

Dharuhk Svahre I humbly ask you rethink augmenting items to allow for multiple bonuses per item and the like. If we're to be epic... and more powerful the better, regular items just aren't worthy of the epic prowess. To encompass the epic spectrum we really need more diversity to show here that we have the stuff that's allowed us to survive in whatever world we came from to make it to the peak and height an epic level character stands at on a daily basis.

If you ask me this 'epic' prowess requires epic and non-traditional items to back it up, plus the rules in the DMG are given for just such occasions, letting PC's and DM's alike create items not so cookie-cutter. What do you say?

Ok, I have no idea what you are actually asking here, so I'm gonna clarify my magic item rules.
Magic Item Stacking: Yes
Magic Item Slot switching: Yes
Item Creation Chart: No
Buying Duplicates of Times/Day Items (i.e. mostly from MiC): No
Adding Enhancements to Specific Weapons/Armor (i.e. souldrinker): No

Hope that helps.

When utilizing templates, you begin with the base creature. Then you add all inherited templates during the same step (Birth), after which you add aquired templates in whichever order they are aquired.

Both natural Lycanthrope and Half-Dragon are Inherited templates, and since they are both applied at the same time, would be applied in whichever manner is more appropriate. Since half dragon>Lycanthrope is impossible, you must apply Lycanthrope first, which doesn't change the type but adds the shapechanger subtype. You then would apply Half-Dragon and the type would become dragon(Shapechanger)

The only time two inherited templates cannot coexist is if no combination of them would be legal, or if any of them cannot be applied to the base creature itself.


As to the Vow, the simplest way is to just continue the natural extension of bonuses that allready acrue, which I'd be perfectly fine with unless you want to introduce more unique abilities (Like the fredom of movement/mind shield/greater sustenance). The only question I have is do you consider the bonuses to be based on ECL or HD?

I work off of HD, not ECL.

I'd would like to toss my hat into the ring here if there is still room. I'm thinking of playing a chameleon from races of destiny, along with the draconic heritage feat and practical metagmaic from Races of Dragons, and some silthilar grafts from book of abberations. That should cover non sore/complete sources I want to use. Any objections?

Sounds good. Welcome aboard.

I think there will be room as I have no time. There is a bunch of things I should have been doing this weekend for other games and I found myself to busy with fleshing out the epic character.

Thanks for the time and answering the questions right away but alas my second save to resist has succeed.

Have fun everyone.

HM

Sorry to lose you.

 

[Rathan]

EDIT: a ring of protection +5 and a ring of freedom of movement are ok to stack... but making things like un-slotted items (for example a gem of luck) that gives a +5 luck bonus to saves is a no?

Am I understanding correctly now?

 

[Jemal]

Ah, I understand where he's going with the magic items now. The only thing he's really saying NO to are adding extra enchantments to the 'unique' weapons/armour (Celestial armour, Sunblade, etc).

I'd suggest against doing the unslotted route, it tends to come off as cheezy. Just pay the 1.5 to add it to something else (Cheaper AND seems less cheezy.. how is that possible?)



Dharuhk - Allright, so if you're working off HD then I'm only lvl 23 equivalent, which is easy as it adds very little following the natural progression of the vow.
Exalted AC, Exalted Strike, Resistance bonus, and Ability scores would each get one more enhancement.

Do you think epic vow should have any additional 'special' abilities (Nonepic gets DR, Sustenance, greater sustenance, Mind shielding, Freedom of Movemnet, True Seeing, Endure Elements, and Regeneration) Either way's good for me, I didn't take it for the abilities, I took it b/c it's one of the few ways to play a non-gear based character without sucking.

 

[Rathan]

Right but I also think he's saying no to things like strait luck bonuses to AC and saves as well as it's not an existing item that gives the ability to have these is there that can be increased?

For example there's amulets of Nat. Armor from +1 to +5... there's no items that give +1 to +5 luck bonuses to saves and AC is there? if so I'll stack them to something I have, and if it's an uncommon spot I'll just pay double than x1.5...