Epic game: The Eye of Profane Truth (Full)

[Rkhet]

I'm not sure I got feats right. Looking how others did it in the rogues gallery, I think Rhakshan should have only 2 epic feats, right? He's got 26 hd, so he'd get an epic feat at level 21 and 24. And he'd get an extra non-epic feat, for 7 non-epic feats based on level...? I'm not too sure so someone please help.

You can take epic feats as soon as your ECL (that is, your HD plus LA) hit 21.

In your case, you get epic feats at 18HD (Assassin 2), 21HD (Assassin 5) and 24HD (Assassin 8).

 

[Rkhet]

btw, can I have a gutworm? Fiend Folio page 220.

Go ahead. Be sure to mention the penalties on your sheet. Also, it does not stack with Barbarian Rage.

 

[doghead]

I do love reading Epic game ooc threads. If I understand a third of what you are talking about I think I'm doing good. But personally, I think you are all crazy. Go past fourth level and the number of choices starts giving me headaches. And running epic games ... well my little mind just boggles at the thought.

Have fun.

thotd.

 

[gabrion]

A 10th-level rainbow servant can learn and cast spells from the cleric list, even if they don't appear on the lists of any spellcasting class he has.

If you were taking a sorcerer, I'd simply allow you to pick between arcane and divine spells, but with the same limit on spells known. A Warmage, I suppose, can choose Divine spells as his Advanced Learning. I'll let you change your existing Advanced Learning to divine spells if you want.

Just go with wizard, I'd say. If you pick up Geomancer and Hierophant, plus Practiced Spellcaster, you'll have full caster levels, access to both divine and arcane, and much PrC goodness.

If that is going to be an iron clad ruling I will deal with it, but I'd like to at least try to persuade you otherwise.

"When a Warmage gains access to a new level of spells, he automatically knows all the spells for that level listed on the Warmage's spell list. Essentially his spell list is the same as his spells known list."

It seems that knowing a spell implies learning that spell, and since the warmage knows all the spells on their list they effectively "learn" them when that level of spell is gained. It also seems that an important part of the text from the Rainbow Servant is "from the cleric list" and "this class grants access to the spells." Noting my bolding above and the fact that the Rainbow Servant grants access to the cleric spell list, it would seem that all cleric spells would be known to the Warmage.

Of course, as I said, this is just my attempt to sway you and if you still disagree, you are the DM and I will humbly submit to your will. I just thought I should point out the details first.

Since time is running short I will try to construct something that works with your currently ruling, but I hope you will allow wiggle room after you see the wisdom of my explaination.

Edit: One more question too...how do you handle Divine Power at Epic Levels?

 

[Rkhet]

Essentially his spell list is the same as his spells known list.

Well, you could argue that this statement only applies to his existing spells known list - the Warmage list.

A 10th-level rainbow servant can learn and cast spells from the cleric list, even if they don't appear on the lists of any spellcasting class he has.

The strict interpretation here is that he doesn't actually gain the cleric list, either. He can learn spells from the Cleric list despite it not being on his own list - the Warmage list, which is the same as his spells known list.

Either way, I rather that you don't.

Divine Power brings your non-epic BAB to 20 but doesn't affect your epic bonus. Incidentally, you'll want to submit your char real quick. It's already 7pm sunday where I am. I'll be deciding at 10.

 

[gabrion]

Incidentally, you'll want to submit your char real quick. It's already 7pm sunday where I am.

Wow...what a time difference, it's 4:00 in the morning here! I think I've spent too much time putting around though, and I don't have enough of the details done for the character, so I'm sadly gonna have this one slip by. I will watch in case you somehow don't ahve a full crew though and if needed I will pull up the half done file of my Sylph Sorcerer Master Transmogrifist.

 

[Rkhet]

Yeah, I'll put you down as an alt. People come and go all the time in pbp games. Maybe you'll get a spot later.

 

[Albedo]

k, I got the Gutworm added to my character sheet and made a few changes to allow for it.

 

[Rkhet]

Recruitment closed. Players will be:

Silentspace
Nephtys
Pyrex
Albedo

The rest will go down as alts. Thanks to all for their time and effort.

Players: stick around. In the next week or so, I'll be going through your chars with a fine tooth comb. Be ready to change any mistakes, etc, ASAP (post the newer versions in the RG). Those of you who has not finished picking your spells, do so.

Also, on skills: when you gain Int points from levels, they do not grant skill points retroactively. Inherent bonuses do not grant skill points at all. The second is a house-rule, and it's to prevent the 'at what level did I get my +5 book' headache.

 

[Nephtys]

Recruitment closed. Players will be:

Silentspace
Nephtys
Pyrex
Albedo

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Also, on skills: when you gain Int points from levels, they do not grant skill points retroactively. Inherent bonuses do not grant skill points at all. The second is a house-rule, and it's to prevent the 'at what level did I get my +5 book' headache.

Thanks .

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I'm a bit uncertain about my skillpoints, crossclass costs and so on. But on the issue of intelligence bonuses I assumed that the characters gained all their skillpoints and intelligence increases simultaneously at the moment of creation. Since the intelligence bonuses have been there all along I assumed they would count for extra skillpoints, but I see how it could just as well be the other way around.
Either way, I thought I should let you know so you don't miss my mistakes when you go over the characters.