EPIC M&M (OOC Thread)

[Calinon]

"What part of EPIC being a sanctioned law enforcement agency did you not get? This is the NAA, not some tin pot dictatorship. You don't go trampling the rights of people just because you suspect things. Your attitude has all the charm of the gulag. Maybe before the next outing you should get Dara to incorporate jackboots into your costume. Whether or not my actions have bearing on any public image, what is right and legal are what they are. You want to commit felonies, go ahead, but I won't be a party to them. I don't care if Thunder has delusions of godhood, I won't put myself above the law. There are legal ways of approaching this. If you are not willing to follow them, you're no better than the criminals. "

Heh, bet that's gonna have repercussions.

 

[Mimic]

I want to know why he would wait until the middle of a mission to bring up any moral objections he might have.

 

[Calinon]

Yup, kinda curious there too. It wasn't secret that Thunder gave you the go ahead to circumvent the law on this.

 

[Mimic]

Straightjacket is a drama queen?

 

[Calinon]

Pfft, naw. He's a Paladin

And he's a very good distraction. Especially considering how crappy a distraction Sanjay is!

 

[Mimic]

Pfft, naw. He's a Paladin

Aren't Paladins drama queens?

 

[buzzard]

Nope not a police state. It's much like the USA/Canada are today.

http://members.monarch.net/stomped/EPICworld.htm

Oh, and I forgot to add, if you want to argue further, you guys are doing it infront of Murphy.

Oh, good that I know that now that I've said my piece. Thanks.

buzzard

 

[buzzard]

I want to know why he would wait until the middle of a mission to bring up any moral objections he might have.

Because the approach you are trying is fundamentally stupid. It will have two results:

A) Fail (yeah, we'll sneak around in a high security location, which of course won't have security cameras. Right. )
B) Make us come out looking like criminals for sneaking around ineptly trying to cause trouble for a legitimate business.

Why haven't we scouted out the place before hand? Why didn't we try a real covert action? Why didn't someone try to hack their computer and find some real evidence? No, we walk in and accounce that we're EPIC, and then try to act covertly. Brilliant. Why don't we hire a billboard across the street saying "EPIC will be by sometime to rifle through your computers and files, please don't look"

John isn't the sharpest tool in the shed so he is not going to be coming up with such plans, but plenty of these characters are smarter and should use those intelligence point which seems to have been wasted. If Thunder came up with this plan, he is an idiot.

Call me a paladin, fine. However you guys are doing unlawful stupid.

buzzard

 

[buzzard]

Pfft, naw. He's a Paladin

And he's a very good distraction. Especially considering how crappy a distraction Sanjay is!

Straightjacket is acting like the majority of superheroes in comics used to act. Barring the dark comics era of the late 80's/early 90s, this was pretty much the modus operandi of four color heroes. Even Batman had the sense to do underhanded things when nobody could detect it. If this campaign isn't about heroes that act like heroes, do be clear about it. After the lecture that Speed Demon got about saving innocent folks, I rather assumed we were supposed to be heroes, not anti-heroes.

buzzard

 

[Mimic]

Call me a paladin, fine. However you guys are doing unlawful stupid.

First of all I was just kidding, I hope you know that, no offense was ever intended.

None of the characters are what you could call subtle (except maybe Johan and he was needed else where) so a covert operation is doomed from the start and since it was stated that the company is so dirty that they would not even notify the police/feds if we just walked in a took what we needed, that was the route she decided to take. Although it was pretty clear that threatening them with a search warrent would have been laughed at considering that most law enforcement were just waiting to get a look inside, perhaps that is their plan all along. We could be the loop hole they needed or maybe Thunder does have the warrents and just didn't tell us.

Getting back to us, I know that it's not the world's greatest plan but she is young (and although smart) is inexperienced about this type of thing, plus the longer you wait the better chance that the company is either a) destroying or b) hiding the information that we need. Besides the end justifies the means is something she would believe in.

Although my original question stands, it was fairly obvious that we were to go and take what we wanted (at least to me.)

All in all, it's good roleplay, so it's a good thing...