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Epic Spell Resistance Items

Skin of Iron is a fun example.

Since the non-psionic equivilant presented in the ELH is apparantly an artifact :).

All in a matter of how you want to approach it.

You take a great deal of a lee-way with that "In General, an item with even one of these charactertistics is an epic magic item."

Emphasis Meowth's.
 

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Mortaneus said:


Another example: Boots of Swiftness. Combine gloves of dex, boots of striding and springing, a ring of evasion, a double strength boots of speed, with some additional skill bonuses. Nothing you couldn't do with non-epic items. Just because you combine them they suddenly become epic?

Yes. Because you have the effects of gloves of dex +6, boots of striding and springing, a ring of evasion, boots of speed with 6 times the power (more or less: the boots of speed allow 10 rounds per day and you can split them up freely, while the boots of swiftness allow to haste 3 times 20 rounds, or 60 rounds per day, though you cannot split them up quite as well. But you have to use the boots of speed at least for two rounds at once for them to become effective, anyway), and a some quite high skill bonuses combined so they only use up one item slot boots of swiftness are considered Epic.

Man, you only wear one pair of boots and get the benefits of seven pairs of boots (as if you had six pairs of boots of speed and you changed to another when the first ran out), a pair of gloves, a ring, and +20 each on three skills and an additional +10 on jump on top of that.
 

KaeYoss said:

Man, you only wear one pair of boots and get the benefits of seven pairs of boots (as if you had six pairs of boots of speed and you changed to another when the first ran out), a pair of gloves, a ring, and +20 each on three skills and an additional +10 on jump on top of that.

Because for the same cost you could get all those effects that occupy NO slots at non-epic levels?
 

Marshall said:
Because for the same cost you could get all those effects that occupy NO slots at non-epic levels?

True. As a non-slotted item or multiple non-slotted items, they would total roughly the same cost.

gloves of dex +6 = 72,000gp
boots of striding & springing = 12,000gp
ring of evasion = 50,000gp
better boots of speed = at least 64,000gp, probably more
balance +20 = 16,000gp
climb +20 = 16,000gp
jump +20 = 16,000gp
tumble +20 = 16,000gp
Total = 262,000gp

It's the convenience factor of having everything on one item. To avoid being stuck with an epic item, just group everything but the skill bonuses onto one item, and move the skill bonuses onto their own item. Voila.
 

kreynolds said:


True. As a non-slotted item or multiple non-slotted items, they would total roughly the same cost.

Note that one non-slotted item would be more expensive, as multiple abilities increase the cost for every additional ability.

Also, some DM's might disallow putting EVERYTHING on nonslot items, especially if they're no official items from out of the books.
 

KaeYoss said:
Note that one non-slotted item would be more expensive, as multiple abilities increase the cost for every additional ability.

I already factored that in. For non-slotted items, you simply add them all together at double the cost.

KaeYoss said:
Also, some DM's might disallow putting EVERYTHING on nonslot items

Very true. For some DMs, the "cheese" factor of an item like that might be kinda high. :)
 

Also, I for one don't want to look like Saint Nick, carrying a bag of goodies just to receive every possible magical bonus there is....
 

KaeYoss said:
Also, I for one don't want to look like Saint Nick, carrying a bag of goodies just to receive every possible magical bonus there is....

How about a 50-foot tall tornado of ioun stones above your head? That wouldn't be too bad, would it? :)
 

Krafen said:
My question is, at what point does SR become Epic?

Just in case there is any confusion left....

I was wrong about the x10 I posted above. You have to break a limit (such as +5 resistance, +5 enhancement on a weapon, +6 enhancement for an ability) to get a x10 multiplier on the price.

Next, SR items become EPIC when they cost more than 200K. I'm confident Krafen's price of 280K is correct, versus 290K in the ELH. (Actually, I came up with the same price, but applied the x10 because I thought we had broken a limit).

Later!
 

kreynolds said:


How about a 50-foot tall tornado of ioun stones above your head? That wouldn't be too bad, would it? :)

Hm.... Dunno. I'd have problems with all kinds of druids in no time, as they'd surely pummel all the birds in the area to death...
 

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