Erik Mona on Paizo Releases and D&D 5E's Impact

Paizo's Erik Mona spoke to ICv2 while at the GAMA trade show about a range of subjects. Much of it is release schedule stuff we already know about (Pathfinder Unchained, Occult Adventures, Hell's Rebels adventure path) but there's also some interesting commentary on the market and the impact of D&D 5th Edition. (thanks to Merric for the scoop!)

Here are the key points. You can read the full interview here.

  • Erik refers to the market as a "post-5th Edition paradigm".
  • D&D 5th Edition has not negatively impacted Pathfinder sales.
  • The general RPG market has been lifted by 5E.
  • May sees the release of Wrath of the Righteous for the Adventure Card Game. These will be more than once a year, but less than two a year.
  • The Strategy Guide is designed as an entry point to the game as a companion to the core rulebook for new players.
  • Pathfinder Unchained is this month!
  • Occult Adventures at Gen Con; "our answer to Psionics".
  • Hell's Rebels in August, an urban AP featuring revolutionaries overthrowing tyrants.
  • 2015 has a similar release pace to 2014.

Pathfinder Unchained -- It’s a treasure trove of optional rules letting the Pathfinder RPG design team loose to do whatever they want, damn the consequences. Here’s an alternate version of combat; here’s a different way to increase your character’s level, really a lot of experimental stuff that players can pick and choose what they want to implement. So maybe you like Pathfinder but you feel it takes too long to make encounters or make monsters, there’s a streamlined version of how to do that in this book.

There’s also revisions on four classes so there’s a revised rogue, revised monk, and a revised barbarian. Now that we’ve done almost 30 classes and we’ve got several years behind us and people think in retrospect, maybe the rogue and the monk are not powerful enough vs. some of the stuff that’s come since, so we’ve retuned those classes and given people an optional version if that’s a concern of theirs. Also the summoner, which is a class that we put out in the Advanced Player’s Guide, very, very powerful class, perhaps even unintentionally so, this is a new version of that brings its power in line with everything else. So that’s a big, huge trove of optional rules, cool alternative takes on different things that people can add to their game.

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I'm glad to hear that D&D5 is not impacting Pathfinder sales. I hope it continues to be true and also that Pathfinder does not impact D&D5 sales. These are two very different games and it would disappoint me to learn that people weren't making use of both rulesets.

That said, I just dropped a ton of cash on Iron Gods and it sounds like I'm going to be dropping another ton on Hell's Rebels later this year. Oi.
 

The Flip Mat reprints are pretty exciting!
Yeah, I'm excited for that as well. They've said again and again that they didn't want to reprint Flip Mats because it would mean fewer sales since people already have one. But that always seemed off since their current Mat sales must be huge compared to their old sales.
That's getting bought the minute it's released.
 

Not really surprised that Pathfinder is still doing okay. They had half the year to themselves, and lots of people are still likely finishing Pathfinder campaigns or buying both to see which game they end up sticking with. And Paizo has some ardent fans that are likely to happily keep buying, especially for the story.
It helps that the D&D release schedule is so much lower, so it's very possible to buy both games.

The catch will be in a few months or a year, when people setting into 5e games and stop buying the Pathfinder releases.

Paizo's full of smart dudes. So they'll probably work to make their big releases as "must buy" as possible. But I imagine a lot of the smaller releases will see less action. Things like the Campaign Setting and Player Companion lines that come out super often and regularly (for reasons of subscribers) but are running low on content.

Still... I can't think of many books in the works that I'd buy now. My Pathfinder collection feels near complete, more content than I need. Setting specific options excluded.
 

Pathfinder Unchained sounds like the kind of book that traditionally serves as a precursor/playtest for a new edition.
 

There is the fact also that Pathfinder stuff is relatively easy to convert to 5th edition, so adventure paths should continue to see good sales, either by true pathfinder fans, or by people like myself that just uses them as inspiration or for converting to dd5. The fact that wizards does not publish a lot of material should help Paizo in the long term. I don't see them as really competting at this point, from a financial point of view...
 

Pathfinder Unchained sounds like the kind of book that traditionally serves as a precursor/playtest for a new edition.

Traditionally? Huh? Pathfinder Unchained sounds like Unearthed Arcana to me, which was not a precursor to any new edition in its various incarnations.

The late 3E Tome of Battle WAS a precursor to the 4th edition, but isn't really all that like what Pathfinder Unchained seems to be . . . IMO, of course.
 

I don't think anybody expected 5e to smash Pathfinder apart. Paizo has a lot of loyal fans who hate WotC and they certainly weren't gonna jump ship in any way, shape or form.
I think Paizo has the task of staying relevant in an era where D&D is well received, I think that Unchained is an attempt at that. I think the long term will tell the story one way or the other.
 

The Pathfinder accessories are very useful for 5e GMs too. I don't know how many other 5e GMs use them, but the Face Cards are invaluable to me, even though I'm not running the Paizo adventures that they're ostensibly tied to; I just use the images I like for NPCs in my world.
 

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