Essential's Heroic Knight -- not so sticky?

[Vael]

Shift, then charge.

 

[brehobit]

Shift, then charge.

Sure, but then stuck with basic attack and sometimes even that won't work. I (and the DM) have always found the fighter darn sticky. Especially when the baddies are trying to run away, but even in a pure fight. If there are two big bad guys, I can generally keep one focused on me.

 

[AbdulAlhazred]

The thing with the PHB fighter is there are a MILLION ways to make it much stickier. Some of those can apply to the Knight as well but with a selection of a variety of powers the fighter has somewhat of an edge there. From what I can see the difference is more that EVERY knight will be about equally sticky whereas with fighters there is more of a trade off between damage output and stickiness.

I think you're going to find they both fill their role about equally well. Just like Wardens and fighters are pretty equal as well even though they mark and punish differently.

 

[Prestidigitalis]

Never mind.

 

[Saeviomagy]

While true, there are a few issues. First the opponent can only shift. If your allies are farther than 1 square from the baddy, he can't get to them.

If the knight is in his "slows on a hit" stance, then this applies to the knight as well.

Also most monsters are only mildly inconvenienced by having to use basic attacks.

 

[Prestidigitalis]

If the knight is in his "slows on a hit" stance, then this applies to the knight as well.

Huh? Can you explain what you mean by that?